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Old 01-05-2015, 06:46 PM
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While the graphical weather is great on a cross-country, I also find that being able to look at the current decoded text weather conditions for any airport I choose is REALLY useful!
Yep, I agree and would not want to be without it on cross country trips.
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:22 AM
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While the graphical weather is great on a cross-country, I also find that being able to look at the current decoded text weather conditions for any airport I choose is REALLY useful!
Agreed. I find that on any given day (me being a fair-weather flyer) I'm for more interested in winds and ceilings than I am in the radar depictions. Don't get me wrong - there is a definite benefit to seeing the radar, but it falls behind winds/ceilings and traffic on my ADSB priority list.
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Old 01-06-2015, 08:01 AM
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Agreed. I find that on any given day (me being a fair-weather flyer) I'm for more interested in winds and ceilings than I am in the radar depictions. Don't get me wrong - there is a definite benefit to seeing the radar, but it falls behind winds/ceilings and traffic on my ADSB priority list.
I'm with you Dave. Since flying a light sport I am much more cautious with wind conditions, but on that note I have been pleased with the RV12 handling of wind corrections on takeoff and landing.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:53 AM
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The highest praise I have for ADS-B In is that I cancelled my XM aviator subscription.
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:01 PM
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Agree that weather radar is more functional on cross country trips. Locally I press Nearest and Wx on Skyview to see winds & ceilings for airports in the area. ADSB best investment I made, however I've learned it doesn't show everything like AC with inop (or off) transponder and jump planes more than 5000' overhead. As someone said, eyes open....
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Old 01-12-2015, 04:35 PM
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Just a reminder: none of these systems show all traffic. Keep looking, too.

Yes, under the current rules, to be compliant after 2020 will require a TSO'd gps feeding the mode S transponder.
So, what does that mean for us guys who have gone with the SV system, with built in Mode S, and the ADS-B unit offered from Van's???? Are we still hanging out there come 2020?? And if so, what will we need to be compliant??

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Old 01-12-2015, 05:23 PM
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So, what does that mean for us guys who have gone with the SV system, with built in Mode S, and the ADS-B unit offered from Van's???? Are we still hanging out there come 2020?? And if so, what will we need to be compliant??

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When I bought my SLSA I asked Vans the same thing. Their answer was that " there will probably be a module that meets compliance by then".

So??...
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:17 PM
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Tom,
Before Jan 1, 2020 (which is still 5 years away) you will need to install a new GPS receiver if you want to fly in ADS-B rule airspaces (Class B, Class C, above 10,000' MSL). If you stay out of those areas, what you have is fine.

The GPS needs to be certified, which the SV-GPS-250 that came with your 12 is not. Right now, modules exist, but are fairly expensive ($2,500+). We all expect there will be more affordable options in the next few years. However, if you want to get compliant today, we can help you do so, assuming your LSA is an E-LSA, not an S-LSA.

Realize you are not in a unique position. There are 150,000 GA aircraft in the USA that need to be compliant by 2020 and only a couple thousand are so far. You're far ahead since you have a fully TSO'd Mode-S transponder already so you just need a GPS, while almost all GA planes need a lot more work to meet the mandate.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:27 PM
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Dynon,

Since my SkyView Mode S Transponder isn't ADS-B compliant, can I do a software downgrade to Mode C? That way I won't be outputting my discrete airplane ID?

Then, when you come up with a solution, I will set it back to Mode S.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:58 PM
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Tom,
Before Jan 1, 2020 (which is still 5 years away) you will need to install a new GPS receiver if you want to fly in ADS-B rule airspaces (Class B, Class C, above 10,000' MSL). If you stay out of those areas, what you have is fine.

The GPS needs to be certified, which the SV-GPS-250 that came with your 12 is not. Right now, modules exist, but are fairly expensive ($2,500+). We all expect there will be more affordable options in the next few years. However, if you want to get compliant today, we can help you do so, assuming your LSA is an E-LSA, not an S-LSA.

Realize you are not in a unique position. There are 150,000 GA aircraft in the USA that need to be compliant by 2020 and only a couple thousand are so far. You're far ahead since you have a fully TSO'd Mode-S transponder already so you just need a GPS, while almost all GA planes need a lot more work to meet the mandate.
Keep in mind that the transponder, the gps, AND the combination must all have some sort of documentation. e.g., not just any gps meeting the specs can be attached - your transponder paperwork has to say "model xyz gps is an approved position source for this transponder".
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