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10-15-2014, 06:04 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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2x or 3x rivet gun?
what would you recommend for a project that is vastly 1/8 rivets and maybe 5% 3/32 rivets, a 2x or 3x gun?
also, your 2 or 3 favorite shaped bucking bars?
can you tell i want to get into solid rivets?
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10-15-2014, 06:31 PM
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You can always dial down a 3x. You can't dial up a 2x. In my opinion, the bucking bar will matter more than whether you use a 2x or 3x though.
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10-15-2014, 06:33 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Rivet gun
Rivet gun...Sioux 3X
Bucking bar...Titanium rectangular one with the angled face on one end.
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10-15-2014, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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I use a 4x for virtually everything. Longer stroke equals harder hits, equals less hits equals less hardening.
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10-15-2014, 07:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Tunsten
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Originally Posted by BruceEicher
Or better yet a tungsten but same shape. 
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Dangnabbit! I do that all the time. I have a titanium rod in my tibia from knee to ankle from a broken leg so it must be on the brain.
Tungsten bar! Titanium leg. Gotta get that right.
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Estes Park, CO
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
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HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
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I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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10-15-2014, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceEicher
Or better yet a tungsten but same shape. 
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Get the tungsten bars and a 2X and a 3X. While I built my -9 with a hand squeezer and a 3X gun a friend built his -7A with a 2X gun.
What I found was the 3X is great when riveting a lot of structure, say along the longerons or three or more skins together.
The 2X is great for skin to rib or skin to bulkheads AKA the places that will be seen. The 2X is light enough that it is very difficult to dent the skins with it.
Buy a hand squeezer from Avery's and a longeron and no-hole yoke and what you can's squeeze you can drive.
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10-15-2014, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Half Moon Bay, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wirejock
Bucking bar...Titanium rectangular one with the angled face on one end.
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+1. Absolutely; a tungsten BB will become your favorite go-to bar, guaranteed. (see, Wirejock; I error corrected! At least a Ti and W bar would be about the same price :-o)
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10-15-2014, 11:42 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Since you said the project you are considering is 95% 1/8 rivets, my recommendation would be for at least a 3X.
My preference is a 2X for 3/32 rivets put you will have so few it probably wouldn't matter.
The bucking bar that is my favorite is no longer available so I can't recommend anything, but for 1/8 rivets stick with bars on the heavier side.
Thinking about building a T18?
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10-16-2014, 07:38 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cypress, TX
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Plus one for the 4x. It seems to me to cause less skin distortion. You said mostly 1/8 inch. For me a 3x would be the minimum. Oh, and get one with a good feathering trigger.
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10-16-2014, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,967
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Tungsten Bar & 3X Gun
..dial up or down. i wouldn't go smaller than a 3x gun.
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