Quick build vs standard..

Roy25101 · #1 10-14-2014, 05:02 AM

I have searched the RV-10 forum and have not found much in the way of model specific info on QB vs standard.

I am slowly approaching the completion of the tail and am going to have to make the dreaded decision soon. Does anyone have a strong opinion on which direction to go.

I would also love to hear how long it took folks to finish the standard wings and or fuselage. I have seen estimates that vary greatly.

As always, I appreciate this resource. Y'all have been a great help...

aturner · #2 10-14-2014, 05:40 AM

Like a lot of questions on this forum, the answer really depends on the individual. For me, riveting together the wings and fuselage was very enjoyable, perhaps the most enjoyable portion of the project, and I couldn't conceive of paying someone else to do it for me. But I know that not everyone is like me.

Are you enjoying the build so far?

Roy25101 · #3 10-14-2014, 05:52 AM

Love the build so far but one problem I have found is a lack of help. Everyone is so busy these days, myself included, that I am finding this to be a solo project for me. I am not sure how much multi person work is required to get the wings and fuse done...

bill@fusion4.net · #4 10-14-2014, 05:57 AM

My Slow build times, including priming with AKZO
Tail 315
Fuselage 588 (Includes ~80 hrs on off-plan add-ons)
Wing 431

rleffler · #5 10-14-2014, 05:59 AM

Like Andy stated, it really depends.

I did the standard build for both kits. If I had to do it over again, I would probably quick build the wings. I found the wing kit to be rather repetitive with all the deburring and match drilling that is required.

I enjoyed the fuselage because it's a different activity on each page of the plan.

The questions that only you can answer are:

Do you enjoy building?
How quickly do you want to fly?
Does your budget allow funding the quick build kits?

If you enjoy building, don't get the quick build kits. Otherwise if you want to fly faster and can afford it, get the quick build kits.

Yes, there are tasks that you'll need a helping hand, but they are limited. With the exception of a few steps, I built mine by myself.

Aiki_Aviator · #6 10-14-2014, 07:10 AM

I concur with the others above. It will depend on your time availability, self motivation and personal wants.

I personally got the QB Fuse and Wings. I liked the idea of the wings and wing spars being completed. It was my first build of anything like this.

I finished in 3.5 years (no paint) which is fairly quick, however, I did think that there was still a lot of work and was glad I took this path.

If you are by yourself think carefully as the difference between "to QB and not to QB" as the time cost will be significant.

Can I suggest, look at the amount of time you are currently spending average/week, look at the average build times on the QB and non-QB builds on KitLogPro (my estimates are approx 1800-2000 QB, and 2500-3000 non-QB) and then work out when you are likely to finish.

Ask yourself, am I happy with that and can I sustain the effort for that period of time. If Yes then SB, if not then QB. If not sure, then start with a QB/SB component and re-assess at end of that segment to see if the alternate option would be appropriate.

Sounds like from Bob that the Fuse maybe the SB segment might be the most fun. Either way, make sure you are honest with yourself based on your real build capability.

In the end better to get a little help and finish than get half way and be disillusioned...

Hope this helps. :-) Good luck.

rocketman1988 · #7 10-14-2014, 07:22 AM

I did the quick build wings and fuse, and I would do it again.

Yes, I like to build but the time saved was well worth it for me. Then again, I am not able to spend 8 hours a day building...family and full time job takes care of that!

I have been happy with the quality of the QB work, only issues have been having to drill out some rivets that were not supposed to be installed yet but that was pretty minor...

Roy25101 · #8 10-14-2014, 08:02 AM

Great info. I did not really give consideration to doing a SB fuselage then QB wings after the fuselage is done.. I assume Van's is good with that arrangement if I am reading their site correctly.

Again, thanks for the input. Any other would be greatly appreciated...

Rupester · #9 10-14-2014, 08:07 AM

Another big factor is how soon you want to fly the Ten. If a normal build time for wings and fuse is 800 to 1000hrs, and you can only invest, say, 300 hrs/yr in build time, then the QB route get's you in the air 3 yrs sooner. That's huge.

NovaBandit · #10 10-14-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rleffler

Like Andy stated, it really depends.

I did the standard build for both kits. If I had to do it over again, I would probably quick build the wings. I found the wing kit to be rather repetitive with all the deburring and match drilling that is required.

I enjoyed the fuselage because it's a different activity on each page of the plan.

I feel the same way as Bob. I also standard built everything, and if I do it again, I'll QB the wings for sure. The fuse was a very fun part of the build!