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Old 07-24-2014, 12:49 AM
Rainier Lamers Rainier Lamers is offline
 
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How about a 7 inch EMS?
You got it.
It's called the Discovery "Lite".

You can configure the screen anyway you like and easily use it as a stand alone EMS. Since it is so simple to page screens however, it would make sense to have at least one showing primary flight info and perhaps a bit of navigation as well. Even if that is just for backup purposes.

It's not much a cost thing (I know that is what you will be getting at). While it is true that removing the pressure sensors, AHRS, GPS and RTC (i.e. things not needed for an EMS) would save some money, but these components no longer cost a lot and do not add much to the overall price. By far most of the money goes into the display and the pressure activated glass/glass touch technology followed by the processing core (our G3 CPU system which is a plug in module to make hardware upgrades possible).

As an example of this consider the Infinitec XTreme (currently sold under our brand name). It is available in an EMS only and EFIS version but the price difference is fairly small. It makes sense with this one as the screens are not user configurable. If they were, the sense would "leak" out of this a bit.

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Old 07-24-2014, 06:16 AM
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Hi Rainer since the cost of the AHRS sensors have come down in price any chance of a cheap AHRS sensor that would work with my Odyssey efis?

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Old 07-24-2014, 06:33 AM
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Hi Rainer since the cost of the AHRS sensors have come down in price any chance of a cheap AHRS sensor that would work with my Odyssey efis?

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Bill
They are around $300 here (and have been for quite some time). Much less than they were just a few years ago.
Yes, very likely the price will drop further soon. Technology is moving fast in this arena and the Discovery Lite is already benifiting from this.

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Old 08-18-2014, 02:46 PM
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Any update on pricing in North America? Still nothing on the website or the order page. Anyone have a look at the system at OSH?
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Old 08-18-2014, 06:14 PM
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Default I saw it at OSH

Check out
http://www.parts4aircraft.com/mgl-av...y-c102x2344979

Converted to USD, the advertised price comes in around $3k, which is what was mentioned at the OSH booth as the target price.

The site mentions availability in October...
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:59 PM
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Can you update with the instruction manual when it's ready? I always thoroughly read the manual before purchasing.
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:08 PM
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Old 09-12-2014, 08:02 AM
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Can you update with the instruction manual when it's ready? I always thoroughly read the manual before purchasing.
Since it is an iEFIS there is no seperate manual. There will only be a seperate installation manual.

The "Lite" does everything a normal iEFIS does, subject to having fewer hardware interfaces.

It uses the exact same binary program code that is used with any other iEFIS.

It uses our new G3 processor, a medical grade Cortex A8 chip from Texas Instruments, effectively a derated industrial spec chip for higher reliability (much in the same way you would derate an engine for higher reliability).

Boards are slowly getting back from our contract manufacturer and we have started assembly. First shipping should be next month. Not much to do on the software as it is the iEFIS software anyway. Just a few differences related to the hardware that can be catered for in the same binary.
The required software additions (mostly code for the AHRS and pressure sensors, audio feed etc) have been completed.
DO-160 has just been done.
Flight testing should start sometime next week.

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Old 03-24-2015, 11:05 AM
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Rainier,
Would it be possible to mount the Discover Lite vertically in my panel? I have only 8 inches of space top to bottom.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:58 AM
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Rainier,
Would it be possible to mount the Discover Lite vertically in my panel? I have only 8 inches of space top to bottom.
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Ron P
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Not yet.
We may look at a vertical mount option though. It does need a different display as the current one does not allow viewing of the image from below (if mounted horizontal). This is due to the design of the light polarizer which is the top layer of the display. This helps to cut out light reflections.
For a vertical mount unit the polarizer has to be either heavily modified or a different LCD technology used (that is possible - we do so on the Challenger which has all round 180 degrees viewing angle).

The Explorer lite is in production now, Challenger lite and the "non-lite (heavy ?)" Discovery" will follow.
After that I will have a closer look at vertical mount options.

We're just over a month away from moving into new, smart and larger offices so that will throw a small spanner in the works for two weeks or so but expect a stronger MGL to emerge. Time to grow !

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