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Old 08-25-2014, 06:32 AM
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Default Oil ! To Filter or Not to Filter ?

Talking at the Hanger Powwow last night the question was asked . If you have a 180 HP Lycoming and you use an Oil Filter , What is the Factory TBO ? And If you do Not use an Oil Filter What is the TBO ? As far as we could figure out , It is the Same ! Both are 2000 hrs. If you change Oil at the recommended Hrs. For either way .
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:59 AM
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Talking at the Hanger Powwow last night the question was asked . If you have a 180 HP Lycoming and you use an Oil Filter , What is the Factory TBO ? And If you do Not use an Oil Filter What is the TBO ? As far as we could figure out , It is the Same ! Both are 2000 hrs. If you change Oil at the recommended Hrs. For either way .
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Sounds like a plan.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:04 AM
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If I recall correctly, no change in TBO published, however oil changes are recommended at 25 hrs with the screen and 50 hrs with the spin on filter.

I think there have been thoughts that the spin on filter filter helps to get you to TBO also.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:15 AM
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You cut your oil changes in half, which should pay for the filter mount over the TBO period. Further, filtered oil has been proven to reduce wear on many different engine components and I cannot imagine how this would not increase the actual time before your engine NEEDS an overhaul, which is not really related to Manufacturers TBO.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:19 AM
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Lycoming SB480

http://http://www.lycoming.com/Porta...Inspection.pdf
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:26 AM
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While both may make it to TBO, how close to the limits are the parts from the non-filtered engine and can they be reused?
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:26 AM
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Like said previously the extra oil changes will cost as much as the filters. Something I didn't see mentioned is what a mess and pain in the rear it is to remove clean and reinstall the screen. I would give the advantage to the filter.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:45 AM
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Watch this webinar "All About Oil" by Mike Busch. Quite informative and will help answer a few of your questions.
http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=1149666747001
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Like said previously the extra oil changes will cost as much as the filters. Something I didn't see mentioned is what a mess and pain in the rear it is to remove clean and reinstall the screen. I would give the advantage to the filter.
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Not sure where you are buying your oil but the oil costs me more than the cost of the filter.
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The ability to cut open and inspect the filter is a great help in determining if you actually are going to make it to the completely theoretical TBO...as is oil analysis. I certainly wouldn't go filterless without committing to an analysis program religiously. I thnk in the spirit of hangar discussions you still can't make a convincng case for no filter. The cost of the engine and down time argues in favor of giving yourself every option of keeping things clean internally. I just don't see a downside to filtration. My old Aircoupe even had an option of putting heatsink fins on the filter to help bring down oil temps on the mighty C-90!
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