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Old 07-05-2014, 12:33 PM
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Default RV-9A Builder-Applied Vinyl Wrap

This is a report on builder-applied vinyl wrapping on a just-completed RV9A.

The poster is Bill_H (for picture help) but the builder is S. Helton, VAF ID N115SB, email shelton267 AT msn DOT COM and all questions should be directed there. Pictures are after the text.

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Helton: After a lot of thought and study, we decided to wrap our RV9A with vinyl instead of painting it. Race cars, boats, buses, cars and tractor-trailers are routinely wrapped with vinyl, why not airplanes? Vinyl accent stripes and decals have long been common on planes. There are other threads on VAF about this.

Our difference is that we decided to do the wrapping ourselves.

We think the best wraps come from 3M and Avery. We chose Avery, the top quality “cast vinyl” like this.
http://averyvinyl.com/A9-900-SUPERCA...T-FILMS_c2.htm

Many colors and even metallics are available. The white is supposed to last 12 years out in the sun, we are hangared. We contacted a local sign company guy who does vinyl signs. He had also done a couple of vinyl-wrapped vehicles, so was very familiar with the process. He came and looked at our project and said he would be willing to help us for $30/hr plus materials. This is in rural Arkansas and I suspect labor cost in other areas could be much higher.

We worked with the him for 5 days doing the wings and fuselage, learning the process, then we have done the rest ourselves. It's not difficult to do, but like painting, there are a lot of tricks and techniques to it. I would NOT attempt it without some knowledgeable instruction. We did not need all of that time to learn the process, but he was available and it was convenient.

With the wrap complete we are very happy with the process and the appearance. We've had some knowledgeable aircraft people come into the hanger and admire the "paint job" before we tell them its not paint.

The lower cowl is painted. All of the rest of the plane is wrapped. The wrap is so tight that on the upper cowl you can barely detect, at the right angle, the textural pattern of the fiberglass underneath.

Pros:
Cost: We have about $3500 invested, $2000 labor and $1500 in material. Labor is the big variable. An average paint job is $8-10,000.

Convenience: You can do it all in your own hanger. It can all be done before first flight. You don't have to take it somewhere a have someone else disassemble and paint it.

Cons:
We don't know of any yet. Durability and longevity are obvious concerns.

Some Details:
Tools: No special tools are required. A squeegee, x-acto knife, and hair dryer (NOT heat gun). Two sharp hole punches sized to fit a #6 and #8 countersunk screw head. (More to follow on that.)

You cut the pieces to approximate size and do layouts along natural skin seams. This means you can easily remove and replace a piece should there be a need. You lay it down with the backing still on, and use tape to hold the center of the piece in place. Then you bend back one side and peel off the backer, and cut the backer off with scissors. You lay it down. The exposed adhesive is pressure activated. You can move it around until you apply pressure. You can squeegie down the center horizontally and then squeegie towards and away from you. By lifting on the edge and slightly pulling as you squeegie you can eliminate wrinkles. Also, because the adhesive is micro-grooved, you can eliminate bubbles by simply pressing down without the typical “working them to the edge or cutting them.” Even on the initial squeegee-ing,it can be relifted up and set down again.

It conforms to some fairly significant curves. A hair dryer on full (not a heat gun) helps for that. There is a limit though – such as a prop spinner and wheel pants. The prop spinner was done in two pieces with a longitudinal split covered by matching edge sealing tape. The longer it sits, the more the adhesive holds.

The RV9A had no rounded head or pull rivets to be covered so we have no example of that to show. We did all of the countersunk screws like this: Cover the screw holes. Nick the center and put in the screw (#6 or 8) almost all the way screwed in. Take a sharp hole punch just barely larger than the screwhead, and press down/rotate to cut the vinyl. An x-acto knife can help. The object is to remove just enough so that the screw contacts metal, not vinyl. See the last picture. We had no issues with this technique. We use countersunk washers on all screws holding thin fiberglass pieces, like fairings. I turn them on a lathe to make their OD smaller.

We applied vinyl to the aft edge of the wing forward of the flaps and ailerons, and similarly on the horizontal stabilizer, but not on the aft edge of the vertical stabilizer forward of the rudder. That was better to be painted. Small pieces to cover small areas are easy to do.

We think that the weight of the applied vinyl is about 15 pounds but did not measure it. A paint job would be twice as much or more. We hope to get some per-square-foot values of the vinyl weight with and without the backing peeled off and can post them later.

Some pictures:



















OH! The panel!
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Old 07-05-2014, 12:58 PM
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Impressive! I think this is the way of the future. Most likely some paint shops are going to have to add vinyl as a finish option.

Also, it is just a matter of time until vinyl installation techniques become well known enough for the typical builder to not hesitate wrapping his own plane. High quality paint jobs are now within the skill set of the home builder, at some point high quality wraps will also be common.
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Old 07-05-2014, 02:40 PM
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Very interesting! Looks really good. How does weight compare to paint?
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Old 07-05-2014, 03:03 PM
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Default awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you guys are amazing!
I've been sticking vinyl on stuff for 30+ years, and can't imagine how you did it! Your helper must have been a pretty experienced ol' decal dawg!

For anyone else who wants to tackle this, check the manufacturer's sites, like Avery's, and note that they also have a 'superwrap' film available in quite a few colours, that is likely much easier to apply...it's specially made to conform to compound curves like fairings, cowlings etc. ( in the right hands!)

http://graphics.averydennison.com/en...ping-film.html

seems to have a similar warranty etc. 7-10 years.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:01 PM
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Impressive! I think this is the way of the future.
The wrap jobs and decals that are currently done on cars, commercial vehicles and commercial aircraft are installed over painted surfaces....not over bare metal. I think it's highly likely that full wraps done over bare, untreated, aluminium will ultimately result in undercreep corrosion.

Of course one could prepare and prime the plane before wrapping, but masking, preparing and priming is 80% of the paint job so one might as well just paint the top coats and be done with it.

There's also a lot of other downsides to wraps including the fact that they can't readily be applied to numerous areas on an aircraft that ideally need to be colour matched such as the rear spar of the wings, aileron brackets, etc, etc, etc.

And wraps do not look anywhere near as good as a decent paint job. Anyone who has seen a wrap before and knows what they are can easily spot the difference in quality.

Discrete decals on painted planes have some very real advantages, particularly because it allows for digitally printed art to be easily applied. But full wraps on unpainted planes have some serious limitations.

The problem with the current spate of VansAirforce discussions on wraps is that many of the people who are getting excited about full wraps have never actually seen one on a light aircraft. They're commenting purely based on seeing photos.

I think that people should reserve their opinion on full wraps on RVs until they've seen the actual process for themselves.
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Old 07-05-2014, 09:59 PM
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I agree, Bob. You should see this one before making a conclusion because I don't think your statements are necessarily accurate regarding it. The imperfections S.H. pointed out to me today were very minor and easily dealt with.

He pointed out his intent was a good looking plane for flying, and not a show plane. He exceeded that, in my opinion.

They had no problem with the aft spar pieces, as written. Things like hinges can be primed and painted with matching rattle-can or other methods. The question for the builder will have to do whether things like that are worth several thousand dollars more.

My plane is a 12 and I have no idea how it would look over pulled rivets! Nor do I know about the bare metal vs. primed issue. I'm happy with my 8K$ paint job but this process looks veeeeeeery interesting...
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Old 07-06-2014, 04:23 AM
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So you tell people to reserve their opinion until they actually see a wrap... Then give your opinion and input after never seeing an actual aircraftwraps project?

The statement that we can't wrap ANY Part of the aircraft or "not readily applied" is also incorrect.

"People getting excited haven't seen an actual wrap"... I've personally shown our product to THOUSANDS of pilots. Our past projects have covered the USA coast-to-coast. Maybe, just maybe they have seen our work and might be giving information based on first hand experience!?

In short, you make completely incorrect statements then instruct others to "wait" to see for themselves.

Here's HiDef walk around and uncut. This plane has zero paint on it. You tell me... How's it look? Maybe ask the pilots at Reno PRS that booked wraps only "after" viewing the aircraft "in person" and "up close"?

https://vimeo.com/97088128

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The wrap jobs and decals that are currently done on cars, commercial vehicles and commercial aircraft are installed over painted surfaces....not over bare metal. I think it's highly likely that full wraps done over bare, untreated, aluminium will ultimately result in undercreep corrosion.

Of course one could prepare and prime the plane before wrapping, but masking, preparing and priming is 80% of the paint job so one might as well just paint the top coats and be done with it.

There's also a lot of other downsides to wraps including the fact that they can't readily be applied to numerous areas on an aircraft that ideally need to be colour matched such as the rear spar of the wings, aileron brackets, etc, etc, etc.

And wraps do not look anywhere near as good as a decent paint job. Anyone who has seen a wrap before and knows what they are can easily spot the difference in quality.

Discrete decals on painted planes have some very real advantages, particularly because it allows for digitally printed art to be easily applied. But full wraps on unpainted planes have some serious limitations.

The problem with the current spate of VansAirforce discussions on wraps is that many of the people who are getting excited about full wraps have never actually seen one on a light aircraft. They're commenting purely based on seeing photos.

I think that people should reserve their opinion on full wraps on RVs until they've seen the actual process for themselves.
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Old 07-06-2014, 04:30 AM
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There is no doubt that the wrap looks spectacular, my only concern would be corrosion, which some builders, in certain circumstances, would be familiar with by leaving the "blue" plastic on the parts as supplied too long.
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There is no doubt that the wrap looks spectacular, my only concern would be corrosion, which some builders, in certain circumstances, would be familiar with by leaving the "blue" plastic on the parts as supplied too long.
Different vinyl and cut at the edge of the piece. We wrap our edges. However, vinyl lays great over primer too.
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Could this debate eventually surpass the primer war debate. Time will tell. Looking forward to both sides.
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