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Old 04-13-2014, 09:42 PM
SteveL SteveL is offline
 
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Default Horizontal stab skin

Hello All!
I'm probably one of the newest kids on the block having started my Empennage Mar 27th. I'm getting ready to put the HS-601PP skin on the skeleton. I'm familiar with back riveting the top skin but what happens when you flip the skeleton over and no longer have access? Is there a 426 type blind rivet for this application? Thanks in advance!
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:42 PM
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Default Steve

Congratulations on starting your 7a. Vans instructions are quite detailed in the early goings
of our projects starting with the emp. Occasionally leaving us hanging much later in the build
Trust Vans instruction manual. Riveting in sections, it is cramped in there but do-able for sure.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:58 AM
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Congratulations Steve. You're in a great location. Lots of builders for advise.i seem to remember using a rivet gun and tunsten bucking bar on the other side then a squeezer on the rear spar skin rivets. Did you do the Service Bulletin?
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:42 AM
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There are only a couple rivets in the corners where you'll have to use a pop-rivet, you can get almost all of them with normal rivets, though you'll end up in some interesting positions sometimes to do it.

Wait till you get to the wings - believe it or not it is possible to drive every single skin rivet on the wings by yourself without any pop rivets, but it requires several beers and a couple band-aids.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:25 PM
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I wasn't aware of a service bulletin but am on my way to Van's sight to educate myself. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:05 AM
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I wasn't aware of a service bulletin but am on my way to Van's sight to educate myself. Thanks for the heads up.
SteveL
If your tail kit is new enough, it's probably included. I hope.
The two most current are Stickys at the top of this forum.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...splay.php?f=76
Here are all the SBs for the 7.
https://www.vansaircraft.com/public/service-rv7.htm
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:40 PM
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Default re h stab

please consider the horizontal stabilizer service bulletin in your construction - or maybe it's now included as part of new construction.
i carried it out on a nearly completely constructed but never completely finished h stab that i bought to replace my crappy one on my rv7a.
it was a bear and i would not have done it had i known the difficulty but if you are just beginning, carrying out the service bulletin with the skins off would be a great deal easier.
just wanted to prompt you to those considerations given the timing of your beginnings along with the service bulletin.
good luck

thanks to all, by the way, who sent comments about my dynon AOA question. i see some familiar names on this string

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Old 04-29-2014, 06:35 AM
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I'm a newb also. Received my emp kit on 24 Mar 2014 and the SB was included. Now half way through the rudder. Good times!

Here's my photo documentary: http://mcclernon.smugmug.com/Airplanes/RV-7
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:59 AM
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I'm a newb also. Received my emp kit on 24 Mar 2014 and the SB was included. Now half way through the rudder. Good times!

Here's my photo documentary: http://mcclernon.smugmug.com/Airplanes/RV-7
Welcome Chris. Good to see another Colorado builder.
Thank you for your service.
Nice work. I like the web log.
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
Disclaimer
I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.

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