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04-07-2014, 07:41 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
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Originally Posted by rockwoodrv9
If you don't need this now, you will someday and wish to heck you had done what you could when you had the chance.
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Amen to that. I was perfectly fine one day and permanently uncertifiable the next - although I'm actually in far better health now.
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Dale
Omaha, NE
RV-12 # 222 N980KM "Screamin' Canary" (bought flying)
Fisher Celebrity (under construction)
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04-07-2014, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: WA State
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In his letter to Congress Dr. Eidson states ?Being mindful of challenges to general aviation, a CAMA task force for medical certification has proposed expanded recreational pilot privileges that would allow operation of larger aircraft at greater speeds with relaxed, simplified medical requirements.? What are these specific recommendations from CAMA, and when were they made? I did a quick internet search and could not find any information or details. If anyone else can locate this information perhaps they could post a link so that we can see what CAMA has proposed.
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04-07-2014, 10:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Meridian ID, Aspen CO, Okemos MI
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Reply from my Congressman
first, I have to say I am impressed with Scott Tipton's response. He is one of the "good guys" for general aviation. Here is the response I got back from him.
I added the BOLD TYPE
Dear Mr. Shepard:
Thank you for taking the time to contact me about your aviation concerns. This dialogue is important to me as your representative in Washington, and I appreciate your input.
Overregulation of aviation and our pilots can be detrimental to industries and jobs for Colorado. The safety of pilots and passengers should remain a top priority of the federal government; however, overregulation from organizations such as the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is not benefiting Coloradoans. The Air Commerce Act of 1926 established federal government regulation and oversight over navigational aids, rules for air traffic control, and licensed pilots. In the 1950s the FAA was created to further protect passengers as more demand for commercial flights took off. Since then, the aviation industry has become the most heavily regulated mode of transportation in the United States. I believe the FAA should only adopt rules that are necessary to ensure safety of their passengers, pilots, and local communities most directly affected, and should not declare onerous rules that hinder this entire industry from growth.
I am a cosponsor of H.R. 3708, the General Aviation Pilot Protection Act of 2013, introduced by Representative Todd Rokita (R-IN). This legislation would force the FAA Administrator to advise pilot medical certification regulations to not be so onerous for our pilots when they have previously passed extensive state medical exams. However, legislation that pertains to the FAA and their regulations is referred to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, of which I am not a member. I look forward to working with my colleagues to see that aviation safety is ensured, while reining in federal overregulation on general aviation.
As always, I welcome the opportunity to communicate with you regarding issues impacting Colorado. For your convenience, you may sign up to receive regular email updates from me on matters important to the 3rdCongressional District at http://tipton.house.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact my office if I can ever be of any assistance.
Sincerely,
Scott Tipton
Member of Congress
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Williamston MI
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04-07-2014, 11:33 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sammamish, WA
Posts: 654
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In contrast...
In contrast look at the amazingly non-committal, inaccurate response I got back 5 months after writing my congressman. This shows such a lack of understanding and concern for anything. I can't describe how disgusting this response is.
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Thank you for contacting me to share your views regarding the General Aviation Pilot Protection Act (H.R. 3708). I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this matter and welcome the opportunity to respond.
As you know, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is the federal agency charged with ensuring America continues to have one of the safest aerospace systems in the world. Among other responsibilities, the FAA provides medical standards for aircraft pilots to ensure pilots are capable of flying in a safe manner. Specifically, the FAA requires light-sport aircraft (LSA) pilots to obtain a medical certificate from a third party FAA-authorized medical examiner. Concerns have been raised that this requirement is overly stringent for private pilots flying small aircrafts.
In response to such concerns, Representative Todd Rokita (R-IN) introduced the General Aviation Pilot Protection Act (H.R. 3708) on December 11, 2013. This legislation would allow a person to operate as a pilot in command of a small aircraft without a third-class medical certificate as long as they have a driver's license, are flying at an altitude lower than14, 000 feet above sea level, operating under visual flight rules, and at a speed not faster than 250 knots. H.R. 3708 was referred to the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee for further review. Should this legislation come to the House floor for a vote, I will continue to keep your thoughts in mind and give them thorough consideration.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to get in touch with me. Your interest and input are valued, and I hope to hear from you in the future regarding other matters of importance. I encourage you to visit my website and sign-up for my e-newsletter at http://reichert.house.gov to learn more about other issues impacting the 8th Congressional District and our nation. You can also follow my work online and receive frequent updates on legislation being considered in Congress by visiting me on Twitter ( www.twitter.com/davereichert), Facebook ( www.facebook.com/repdavereichert) and YouTube ( http://www.youtube.com/user/repdavereichert) and Instagram ( http://instagram.com/repdavereichert).
Sincerely,
David G. Reichert
Member of Congress
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Michael Burbidge
Sammamish, WA
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04-08-2014, 04:37 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Defiance, MO
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I have two main issues with the CAMA letter written by Dr Mark Eidson
First he states:
"In others, safe certification follows identification and treatment of potentially serious conditions."
My question to that statement is when was the FAA put in charge of ensuring the general public is properly treated for health conditions?
Second he states:
"Individuals with serious and even life-threatening heart, lung, brain, psychiatric and alcohol/substance abuse conditions could declare themselves fit to fly. Self-declaration would free these individuals to carry five passengers at high altitudes at speeds approaching 300 miles per hour."
People self delare themselves every day. They determine if they feel well enough to go to work, school, the store, even on vacation. People are smart enough to know when they do not feel well enough to fly even now. If the pilot population is anything like me as I get older, we have miscellaneous aches and pains that are not even part of the FAA process and we decide if we are OK to fly. Also people with the stated "serious and even life-threatening heart, lung, brain . . . . " are not required to go to a Federal doctor to ensure they are safe to drive a car/truck; They work it out with THEIR OWN DOCTOR.
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Last edited by plehrke : 04-08-2014 at 09:47 AM.
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04-11-2014, 08:22 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Lawrenceville, Georgia
Posts: 315
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GAO report on the FAA medical process
I'd have to say that the FAA is getting blasted from several angles on the medical process etc. This report may also fair well for us on the 3rd class topic... Check out this new from the AOPA site.
http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/A...?CMP=HPS.ADV4U
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04-17-2014, 09:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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This was published in the latest (April) FAA Notice of Rulemaking
Federal Aviation Administration
Limited Private-Pilot Privileges for Pilots Who Do not Currently Hold an FAA Airman Medical Certificate (Private-Pilot Privileges without a Medical) [Black]
Popular Title: Private-Pilot Privileges without a Medical
RIN 2120-AK45
Stage: NPRM
Previous Stage:None
Abstract: This rulemaking would consider allowing certain operations for individuals exercising private-pilot privileges without holding a current FAA airman medical certificate. The intended effect of this action is to provide relief from having to obtain a medical certificate for pilots engaged in low-risk flying, such as private pilots operating a small, general aviation aircraft.
Effects:
None
Prompting action: Secretarial/Head of Operating Administration Decision
Legal Deadline: None
Rulemaking Project Initiated: 02/04/2014
Docket Number:
Dates for NPRM:
Milestone Originally Scheduled Date New Projected Date Actual Date
To OST 07/03/2014
To OMB 08/04/2014
OMB Clearance 11/04/2014
Publication Date 11/10/2014
End of Comment Period 01/09/2015
Explanation for any delay: N/A
Federal Register Citation for NPRM: None
It seems they have at least given an initial schedule, or you could say they just delayed everything another 9 months.
My medical is due next month, and at this rate I bet I'll still need another in two years time.
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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04-17-2014, 10:30 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az_gila
Prompting action: Trying to avoid giving up control to Congress
Explanation for any delay: Trying to postpone the inevitable
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There, fixed it.
Still... It's encouraging.
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Dale
Omaha, NE
RV-12 # 222 N980KM "Screamin' Canary" (bought flying)
Fisher Celebrity (under construction)
Previous RV-7 project (sold)
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04-25-2014, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,420
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From AOPA ebrief this morning.
"Senior Aviation Medical Examiner Dr. Brent Blue says that his 30 years of issuing third class medicals have not enhanced safety."
http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live/AOPA-Live-This-Week.aspx
Here is a copy of what I just sent via the EAA's contact site. http://govt.eaa.org/14781/support-ge...rotection-act/
Please pass this legislation in the near future.
Not only is the 3rd class medical statistically shown to NOT prevent accidents, it does have the unintended and unfortunate side effect of causing pilots to NOT go to the Dr. for minor seeming issues, due to the fact that they must report the visit--------and many pilots are worried that the FAA will pull their license for these contacts, even though the issue may not have anything to do with their ability to safely fly a plane.
Here is a link to a video from AOPA, where a senior FAA medical examiner is interviewed, and he states that the 3rd class medical is a waste of time and does nothing to insure safety.
http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live/AOPA-Live-This-Week.aspx
Lastly, regarding the recent FAA announcement that they are looking into relaxing the medical requirement for certain pilots holding 3rd class medicals--------this has been in the hands of FAA for two years with NO action,and now when Congress is taking notice, the FAA finally issues something saying they will look into it---------this is just a STALLING TACTIC by FAA to derail the General Aviation Pilot Protection Act---------it is simply a desperate act by the FAA to maintain their power over the pilot population. Do not let FAA's smokescreen actions throw you off track.
Please pass the GAPPA now.
Thank you, Mike Starkey
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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04-25-2014, 02:40 PM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,420
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Support is growing
Looks like 105 or so sponsors/co-sponsors at the current time, as I read the list....
http://www.aopa.org/Advocacy/legisla...ction-act.aspx
Still in the 90% range for Republican support----------come on you folks who have Democrat legislators, please add your voice and urge passage, and support/sponsorship for this legislation.
Lets keep the pressure on the folks in congress.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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