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04-07-2014, 10:49 AM
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Last 2 rivets by trailing edge on Rudder
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04-07-2014, 10:57 AM
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You can always use a pop rivet.
But... What I have done though is put your rudder down on your backrivet plate. Then take a piece of metal, something like a flat screw driver, and put it on the shop head of the rivet. Then hit the screw driver with a hammer. I have a punch that I ground down for the application. Just don't hit the rudder with the hammer. 
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04-07-2014, 12:41 PM
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You could use one of THESE, or as already mentioned, use the blind rivet specified in the plans
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04-07-2014, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Lambert
You can always use a pop rivet.
But... What I have done though is put your rudder down on your backrivet plate. Then take a piece of metal, something like a flat screw driver, and put it on the shop head of the rivet. Then hit the screw driver with a hammer. I have a punch that I ground down for the application. Just don't hit the rudder with the hammer. 
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I do this same kind of thing except I use a heavy masonry chisel on its side and hit it with an old beat up mushroom rivet set in the rivet gun. Easy cheesy.
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04-07-2014, 03:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002
You could use one of THESE, or as already mentioned, use the blind rivet specified in the plans
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The plans do not specify a blind rivet.
Also I tried the indirect back rivet technique. I must suck but I tried using a crow bar and could not get the rivet to set well. Also the bar moved around on the rivet so much it really was disconcerning. Do yourself a favor, drill to a #33 and use a MK-319-BS.
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04-07-2014, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeliCooper
The plans do not specify a blind rivet.
Also I tried the indirect back rivet technique. I must suck but I tried using a crow bar and could not get the rivet to set well. Also the bar moved around on the rivet so much it really was disconcerning. Do yourself a favor, drill to a #33 and use a MK-319-BS.
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I read and re-read the plans and you are right, it does not call for a blind rivet. I hate to put a blind rivet there, but may have to. Thanks.
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04-08-2014, 10:43 AM
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My mistake...
I was pretty sure that the rudder had the same detail as is depicted on the elevator dwg 09-23 for hole prep. and use of MK-319 rivets.
This can be used on the R-903 rib also and a note has been made to add it to future rudder plans revisions.
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04-08-2014, 12:12 PM
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Rivet at end of the rudder
Thank you, that makes sense. I will be out in Oregon in a couple of weeks, April 25th, hope to meet you then. I appreciate all of your input, as well as the rest of the builders. I'm going with the MK-319-BS.
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First RV-14 Flight 04/17/2016
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