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04-04-2014, 09:58 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: New Bedford Ma
Posts: 37
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Smoke on for safety ??
Well flying a fully polished airplane can be near invisible in the sky so I hear , while flying into my local class D airport I was number 2 on final and there was a cirrus on the downwind , he was goin back and forth with the tower trying to locate me , and kept saying he couldn't see me , would it be acceptable to turn the smoke on for a few seconds to make myself visible , I was so tempted to turn it on but wasn't sure if this was the right thing to do while on final , I have had this issue before of not being seen in the traffic pattern , and has anyone else had this issue and turn the smoke on ,
Btw I had my led nav and strobes on the entire time .
Adam S
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04-05-2014, 01:29 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pembrokeshire, UK
Posts: 224
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Adam
I would have no hesitation giving a quick burst of mine (primary reason why I fitted it). When I approach an intensive area of activity I switch it to standby ready for such an event.
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Bob Ellis
www.rv-8.co.uk
G-JBTR Having a ball flying this wonderful machine
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04-05-2014, 05:58 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,012
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Absolutely! Have done this dozens of times. Kind of fun at home field when Ellington calls me out to other traffic and I can lay out a couple of streams of smoke for them. I've never not been seen.
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04-05-2014, 08:24 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
Posts: 4,652
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How much smoke are you going to make with the throttle pulled back to idle (on final)?
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04-05-2014, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Posts: 3,932
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You've heard of TCAS? Well, smoke is VCAS... Visual Collision Avoidance System.
If someone can't see me in the circuit, I would do anything possible to become visible. Right now, that's rolling into knife-edge and out again. When I get smoke, it'll be with smoke.
I wonder if a small circuit to pulse the smoke at regular intervals, making a dotted line, would be useful... Turn it on as you join the circuit, turn off after touchdown. It wouldn't have to use very much smoke oil, just a short pulse every 10 seconds maybe?
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Rob Prior
1996 RV-6 "Tweety" C-FRBP (formerly N196RV)
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04-05-2014, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 522
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In the interest of safety....
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Originally Posted by Snowflake
You've heard of TCAS? Well, smoke is VCAS... Visual Collision Avoidance System.
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And this, my friends is precisely why my wife readily approved the expense for Marvin's smoke system. She's so great!!, and appreciates my concern for safe flight  
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RV-6A 3/4 done...N48JE Reserved 
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04-06-2014, 06:53 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Daytona Beach, Florida
Posts: 121
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Smoke
Don't leave your smoke on at idle on the ground it can cause a fire! Some systems even require a switch on the throttle. If you have it on while on final you could forget it.
I have used my smoke going into Oshkosh after the AV Cup Race, semi mass arrival controller couldn't figure out which flight of three we were, 2 seconds of smoke and he said "thanks".
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04-07-2014, 07:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Paul, MN.
Posts: 4,792
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I've thought of installing a smoke system precisely for this reason.
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04-07-2014, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
Posts: 2,247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry
I've thought of installing a smoke system precisely for this reason.
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I had never thought about installing one... but now I am.  Yeah, safety, that's it. That's the ticket.
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Dale
Omaha, NE
RV-12 # 222 N980KM "Screamin' Canary" (bought flying)
Fisher Celebrity (under construction)
Previous RV-7 project (sold)
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04-07-2014, 01:07 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: logan, utah
Posts: 405
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Any chance the plane behind would have any visibility issues if he flew direct in your flight path ? I'm thinking no but wanted to be courteous of others. I think it would dissipate plenty fast
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14 build working on wings
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