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Old 03-01-2014, 01:33 PM
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Just got the new Kitplanes mag and it has an article about a little airplane named Sexy Hexy and it's trip to Alaska.

The article shows the trip up through Canada and I specifically looked to see if the N numbers were 12".

It looks like it only had small N numbers. I thought 12" numbers were required in Canada.

Looks like I'm wrong. Not the first time ever.
I used to think the same thing. 12-inch numbers are required to cross an ADIZ. There's no ADIZ between the US and Canada, but there is between US and the Bahamas.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:27 PM
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Regarding the 12" numbers: Do they have to be on each side of the (small) fuselage. What about putting them on the wings? The 'Old-Timers' (I'm thinking the Spirit of ST Louis in my head) had them on the wings, seems like on the top of one side and the bottom of the other side??? Is that right? Anyone know where to look up the actual regulation that specifies the need for them? Always best to find the answer right close to the source/requirement.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:45 PM
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http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx....363.6&idno=14

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publ...ifim/airspace/

See if those two will answer your guestions?

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Interesting that the second publication by the FAA clearly says that the numbers may be permanent or temporary and even says that adhesive tape may be used. On our recent return from the Bahamas upon landing at Ft Pierce, FL, the customs agent approached my airplane with its 12" painters tape numbers and told me (nicely) that he was going to let me by this time, but the numbers were supposed to be permanently affixed. I wouldn't want to get into an argument with someone over such a trivial detail, but one should be aware of this. Next time I'll use the vinyl stick-on numbers from Sportys as recommended above. The painters tape didn't stick very well anyway.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:18 PM
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Interesting that the second publication by the FAA clearly says that the numbers may be permanent or temporary and even says that adhesive tape may be used. On our recent return from the Bahamas upon landing at Ft Pierce, FL, the customs agent approached my airplane with its 12" painters tape numbers and told me (nicely) that he was going to let me by this time, but the numbers were supposed to be permanently affixed. I wouldn't want to get into an argument with someone over such a trivial detail, but one should be aware of this. Next time I'll use the vinyl stick-on numbers from Sportys as recommended above. The painters tape didn't stick very well anyway.
Not every employee of every job knows all the rules so that one particular employee got it wrong doesn't surprise me at all.

You can carry a copy of the FAA document that provides acceptable means to comply with the requirements for marking aircraft with nationality and registration marks. The acceptable means you used in this particular situation are specifically covered by part 7(d)(2c). Sporty's vinyl stick-on numbers are not permanent either, just more expensive.


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12-inch numbers are required to cross an ADIZ.


It depends how you cross it





Ted and I did a run to Dry Tortugas and back with small numbers. I plan to cross ADIZ several times this summer without 12" numbers.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:55 PM
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It depends how you cross it

Ted and I did a run to Dry Tortugas and back with small numbers. I plan to cross ADIZ several times this summer without 12" numbers.
The 12" Registration Number requirement are if you "penetrate and transit" the ADIZ, not just if you cross it. Odds are you won't get caught but if you do, don't complain.


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