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Old 02-20-2014, 10:50 AM
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Default Easier now

Yes, we are talking about the Horizontal Stabilizer SB, not the elevator SB. Since I'm still building, my empennage is not on the fuselage yet and not painted, so it is much easier now than to wait and inspect every year until a crack may form and then have to remove the tail feathers and possibly mess up the paint.

Also, just got confirmation from Van's support that the Figure 6 for RV-6/7 has the 3/8 and 1/2 reversed from the actual part in the kit.
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:54 AM
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But this is the kit for the HS, right? I know it's not recommended to do anything if you have no cracks on the elevator, but what's the latest word on the HS if you have no cracks?
The recommendation (and S.B.) hasn't changed Bob...
Inspect. If you have no cracks, fly, and then inspect again in a year, or until you choose to install the SB parts (because of cracks or proactively).

The discussion here is regarding installing the parts when starting new builds or projects under construction.

The recommendation is yes for horizontal stabs not yet built or currently under construction. For ones that have been completed, that is the builders call.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:00 AM
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Default Thanks, Scott

Many thanks to you, RVbuilder2002, for your rivet removal post. Those long handled cutters make removing the shop head of the rivets really easy using your method!
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:25 PM
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What is the thickness of the doubler plates?

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Old 02-20-2014, 02:31 PM
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Dont quote me but I think I measured .060
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:35 PM
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:48 PM
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Bret,
Im in the process also, got all the rivets out today, and got the pieces separated and edges polished, cut the angles and bent them to 86.9 degrees...
Still wounder why some of the rivet spacing could not have been the same on the angles.
But regardless, did all the measurements drilled the holes and tomorrow if all goes well will prime all the new pieces and Saturday put it together.

I am glad to say I got all the rivets out without drilling through any of the metal.
The spring loaded center punch as mentioned before worked like a champ and a backing bucking bar did the trick.


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Old 02-20-2014, 11:47 PM
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My feeling is you have more chance of weakening your horizontal stabiliser in the rivet removal process than adding crack resistance with the parts supplied. I'm going down the road of inspections every 100hrs/ annuals. If I discover a crack, I will rather build a new stabiliser with the parts - it will make me sleep better at night
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:12 PM
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I have. The told me it is a good idea to go ahead and install the SB kit to your emp for aircraft still under construction-slash-not yet flying.

Now, regarding the elevator SB, the recommend NOT proactively installing that SB because they see far fewer cracks on the elevators.
Just to clarify my own conversation with Vans several days ago. They told me to go ahead and PROACTIVELY install the elevator doublers since I was just at the point of riveting the elevator skeleton together.
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:54 PM
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Bret,
Im in the process also, got all the rivets out today, and got the pieces separated and edges polished, cut the angles and bent them to 86.9 degrees...
Still wounder why some of the rivet spacing could not have been the same on the angles.
But regardless, did all the measurements drilled the holes and tomorrow if all goes well will prime all the new pieces and Saturday put it together.

I am glad to say I got all the rivets out without drilling through any of the metal.
The spring loaded center punch as mentioned before worked like a champ and a backing bucking bar did the trick.


Jack
Here is how my spacing came out.

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