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01-12-2014, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
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Originally Posted by Jaypratt
Our "govment" has taken the fun out of traveling. I may not take any more trips outside our borders.
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Boy, ain't that the truth.

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01-12-2014, 09:20 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Just Go!
Flying in and out of the country is really easy. I have flown to Mexico three times and Bahamas twice. Like others have said, just make sure your insurance covers you while in Mexico. Most insurance companies will print your insurance for you in Spanish, or you can buy it through most companies for around $75 for a week or two.
Jon, I have not flown down to PV. We are going there in a few weeks but will be taking the airlines. I would like to try it someday as well. The only reason I haven't is the unknown of the weather. We book a week there and usually travel in January and February when the weather and inversions here in Salt Lake are so variable. Plus, the direct flight from Salt Lake to PV makes it so nice.
I am sure the numbers traveling to Mexico have dropped off. I think people have watched the news way too much and are scared about their safety while in the country, not the procedures. Is the news right? Not in my experience, we also are not traveling to the border cities.
Is it as easy as the "old days" to travel there? Probably not. Is it easier than filing your taxes, going to the DMV, registering an experimental in the US, or getting insurance for your plane? YES!!!
Look at how many are traveling to Bahamas on this site. In my experience they are no different. Sounds like there is a new procedure in Mexico but that will be easy to deal with I am sure.
We have a group here at our airport that does the trip every year still and it is so much fun. The people are so nice at all these locations. I probably will not make it this year due to lots of travel this January and February.
I want to be the voice to say, "GO FOR IT!" If you treat everyone with the same level of respect you expect, you will have a blast.
Yae, this doesn't look that great on second thought. I would stay home and watch American Idol

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Salt Lake City, UT
RV-10 N104XP (1280 Hours)
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01-12-2014, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Scott, your pictures sparked so many memories of our great trip down the Baja a couple years ago, thanks. We plan to repeat it again next month but this time hop across from Cabo to Mazatlan & continue south to PV. Craving the warmth!
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built a few RVs, rebuilt a few more, hot rodded some, & maintained/updated a bunch more
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01-12-2014, 11:11 AM
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Sounds fun
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Originally Posted by Ralph Inkster
Scott, your pictures sparked so many memories of our great trip down the Baja a couple years ago, thanks. We plan to repeat it again next month but this time hop across from Cabo to Mazatlan & continue south to PV. Craving the warmth!
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Great, please let us know how that goes. We would love to do a trip like that.
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Salt Lake City, UT
RV-10 N104XP (1280 Hours)
RV-12 N321UT (Sold)
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01-12-2014, 12:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Originally Posted by Jaypratt
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Our "govment" has taken the fun out of traveling. I may not take any more trips outside our borders.
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Don't include our Northern cousins in with the problems to the South.
Once you work out the eAPIS stuff a trip to Canada is easy...
I'm 30 miles from our Southern border and have never crossed it, but flown into Canada many times with no problems.
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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01-12-2014, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Monterrey, Mexico
Posts: 121
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Hello people,
From what my peers tell me, there are basically two ways to file the Mexican eAPIS so far.
One is through fltplan.com, and from what they told me it is basically the same as filing normal US eAPIS, plus some new fields which are related to flights in and out of Mexico. So it appears that fltplan.com will walk you throughout the filing process.
The second way is through the ARINC system. Follow this link for those who already use ARINC for a complete walkthrough (other users will also benefit of knowing the process).
(If the above pdf doesn't work, shoot me a PM)
They also told me that Mexican authorities haven't really adopted this new feature, and therefore don't really care so far weather you file it or not. But the law was passed Jan. 1 and not doing it, regardless of the importance, is not worth the risk.
So, from what I understand, because this lack of information from the authorities, us pilots are lost in IMC with icing conditions all around.
I will post more updates as they become available.
Hope this helps.
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RV-8 SB Wings in Monterrey, Mexico
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Last edited by mvidalr : 01-13-2014 at 12:32 AM.
Reason: Link issues
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01-12-2014, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
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Originally Posted by az_gila
Don't include our Northern cousins in with the problems to the South..
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Might be your "Northern cousins" but certainly not mine. All my "cousins" are to the South.
Here are some pictures of our last trip outside the US from December 13, 2013 - Jan 3, 2014.

Mayaguez (TJMZ) Puerto Rico - December 14, 2013

San Juan (TJIG) Puerto Rico - December 15, 2013

St Tomas (TIST) USVI - December 18, 2013

St Eustatius (TNCE) Dutch VI - December 19, 2013
We head out to Cozumel and El Salvador on Friday (Jan 17, 2014) for 10 days.

Last edited by GalinHdz : 01-12-2014 at 09:38 PM.
Reason: Added photos & corrected a typo
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01-12-2014, 09:19 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 23
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EAPIS
No luck with the link Miguel. Do you know if we can file our own EAPIS into Mexico like the system in the US, or do we have to go through a third party like flt.plan.com. Thanks for your input.
Chris
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01-13-2014, 12:38 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Monterrey, Mexico
Posts: 121
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Originally Posted by 1rv4
No luck with the link Miguel. Do you know if we can file our own EAPIS into Mexico like the system in the US, or do we have to go through a third party like flt.plan.com. Thanks for your input.
Chris
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Hi Chris and all,
So far, only third parties (ie. ARINC & FltPlan) allow the filing of eAPIS online at a cost. In the meantime, the Mexican government is working on its own online platform, but from experience, it will take months (or even a couple of years) until their system is fully operational, and bug-free.
We live in the stoneage when it comes to aviation and IT.
I think I solves the link issue above. It is a google document so probably won't work with iphone or ipads (only pc). Here it is again:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-JG...pIZ1dveG8/edit
Good luck!
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EAA #1133587
RV-8 SB Wings in Monterrey, Mexico
N511MV Registered
MyKitLog
Last edited by mvidalr : 01-13-2014 at 12:40 AM.
Reason: link again
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01-13-2014, 02:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GalinHdz
Might be your "Northern cousins" but certainly not mine. All my "cousins" are to the South.
Here are some pictures of our last trip outside the US from December 13, 2013 - Jan 3, 2014.
St Eustatius (TNCE) Dutch VI - December 19, 2013
We head out to Cozumel and El Salvador on Friday (Jan 17, 2014) for 10 days.

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...and how much in bribes, err "extra cash fees" did it take to get in and out?
Our neighbor just returned from Cancun and said the paperwork, plus extra cash fees, where about $200 for an IFR flight.
Canada just charges just a quarterly airspace fee that is well published.
I personally don't like unknown, undocumented, cash preferred fees. 
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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