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Old 01-10-2014, 12:42 PM
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Jon Jay you mentioned in your initial post the problem was with boats.
In Mexico there are crowds of folks from the north US and Canada who go down to Mexico every year to get away from the winter. They probably have a boat based down there and use it every winter. It is most likely these people who have run foul of the Mexican authorities.
When you go by plane you are only stoping at the airport for a few days and moving on and not trying to base your plane in Mexico.

However if you are not comfortable in flying to Mexico don't go.
If a trip to say Baja interests you go join a group fly out with the Bush Pilots.

Even in the 1980s there was lots of BS spread about by people who had no first hand experience of going south of the boarder.
No assumption, ancient rumors, and strange logic with this link filed Jan 10, 2014.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...exico-21484091
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:43 PM
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I was refering to flying into Mexico not about going there by boat!
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:50 PM
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Check the extensive thread on Baja Bush Pilots on this topic. Only applies to commercial and charter ops.
December 31, 2013 By Alyssa J. Miller
The Mexican government is set to implement a new law requiring advanced passenger information for flights to and from the country similar to U.S. eAPIS requirements. The measure, passed in 2010, and published in Mexico?s federal register in November this year, is causing confusion among U.S. aviation companies and operators.

The regulation, as published, states that advanced passenger information (for passengers and crew) is required for all scheduled and non-scheduled international airline and maritime vessels arriving and departing Mexico and does not specify that general aviation or private flights are included in the requirement. The Mexican government?s contractor in charge of the program, Maryland-based ARINC, has indicated to AOPA that the regulation will apply to commercial and private flights. This information, however, has not been released officially or verified by the Mexican government.

AOPA is aggressively pursuing the issue on multiple fronts and working with Mexican government officials, representatives of ARINC, and U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials to clarify the policy. Once AOPA receives concrete information, the association will share it with pilots and provide tips for planning flights to and from Mexico.

While the effects of this program are being vetted through official channels, AOPA recommends pilots use an abundance of caution when traveling to Mexico without the aid of an international general aviation service provider or handler. The rule goes into effect Dec. 31, and no one can be certain how individual airport officials will handle implementing the new rule. AOPA offers online resources for planning flights to Mexico.

http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/A...to-Mexico.aspx
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:19 PM
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A reminder that APIS is now required not only for US customs but now also for Mexico customs.

This is new as of last month. You will have to obtain and APIS clearance from US customs prior to departing US soil and then have an Inbound Mexican APIS approval prior to entering Mexican airspace and vise versa returning. FLTPLAN.com can provide both APIS for both countries. /read the requirement on Fltplan.com web page.... a 5000.00 fine for violation..

More paperwork..my only caution to you is as follows.
We no longer fly our corporate aircraft in to middle Mexico due to the rising problems with thieves, drug wars with the authorities. Places like Cabo, Puerto Vallarta, Manzanillo, Guernavaca, are great places to fly into and are used by US airlines. Security is great. Places like Tehuacan,Cordoba Papaloapan we hired security and now will not go there.

Mexico has some beautiful places. I hope some day we can fly into Cuba from the states VFR or over the corridor down to Jamaica which is a very doable trip in an RV from Georgia. But overflight of Cuba is only IFR now.

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Old 01-10-2014, 05:16 PM
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Also remember that your US Airworthiness Certificate is only good in the US without written permission from the country being visited.
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Old 01-10-2014, 06:29 PM
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No assumption, ancient rumors, and strange logic with this link filed Jan 10, 2014.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...exico-21484091
Hmm, according to your article they inspected more than 1600 boats and found 338 non compliant. I bet the US Coast Guard finds that percentage of non compliant boats when they do sweeps like that.

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Also remember that your US Airworthiness Certificate is only good in the US without written permission from the country being visited.
I fly my experimental aircraft to Mexico several times during the year. Mexico does not have a written permission program or even the capability of generating a written permission. They accept any Airworthiness Certificate, regardless of type, that is valid in the issuing country. AFAIK ever since Chile started accepting Experimental Airworthiness Certificates, the only country that still doesn't is Singapore.

PS: I am flying to Mexico (Cozumel) next week.


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Old 01-11-2014, 04:13 AM
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I don't know the requirements on experimental aircraft and their A/W certificated but we go to Mexico a lot with our corporate planes and the A/W has never been an issue however you had better have the original A/W no pink copies, FCC radio license aircraft and yours, medical, and registration, and a copy of your Insurance policy stating you have insurance coverage in Mexico and if course pilot certificate. Have a statement that you have disinfected the aircraft when and how, we generally say spray. Make copies of all paperwork. Lots of them
We have been places where we were required just the required papers and other places You'd think they were wall papering the office.

We often go with out a handler such as base ops or Universal,since we have been down there so much and when we go we call the local FBO and prearrange all the in bound and out bound general decs and immigration paperwork before departing. Carry these is triplicate. Having the local handler meet you at your aircraft makes life so much easier as they will have all the immigration and other paperwork filled out. And walk you through all the inspectors. Flight plans are required at least for our operations.
Carry Greenbacks...... To pay the customary tips.... Ball caps of baseball teams is great to hand them.
I am sorry to say but it is a policy of you have the expensive plane... We're just poor gov employees and were taking advantage of you or making your lives miserable.

12 inch N numbers are suppose to be required outside of this country and I have seen on trips were US. Registered aircraft have applied Tape to do this.

We love the Manzanillo, Grand Bay, island de Navidad, area. All on the coast, with great views.

If you venture to Cuernavaca area, you notices in down town market area that a lot the streets are named after Charles Lindbergh and Ann Morrow his wife and the aircraft Spirit parts. The folks loved them and this is where they had a retirement home, Ann's father was a US diplomat there.
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Old 01-11-2014, 09:21 AM
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Jack and others. Thank you. Very helpful.
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:46 AM
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I am Mexican, and live and fly in Mexico (and many times in the US too).
I am based at MMAN (NTR) airport.
If I can be of any assistance, I'd love to help.

For the record, I'm building a SB RV-8 (wings) in my garage and it will be US registered (N511MV reserved).
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Old 01-12-2014, 06:28 AM
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Air Baja is not in print any more because of the problems with flying there.
The publisher said Trips by US pilots had dropped off so much that the sale of his guide book on longer makes it practical to continue printing.

Our "govment" has taken the fun out of traveling. I may not take any more trips outside our borders.
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