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Old 12-30-2013, 02:52 PM
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Default New fuel tank SB (13-12-19 released and effective December 19, 2013)

http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb13-12-19.pdf
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:43 PM
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Great! I look forward to removing the fuel tank again! Just as I do to pink eye & cold toilet seats!

I sold my old Cessna and built the RV-12, confident that I would have a modern, cheap to fly, easy to maintain LSA. Becoming very disappointed. My plane weighs 771; paperwork, SBs & maintenance records weigh more!

Dynon is a pleasure to work with, Vans not so much, Rotax abysmal.

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Old 12-30-2013, 06:10 PM
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I don't have a problem with product improvements....

Are Service Bulletins mandatory Stateside?

Love the products from Vans, Rotax and Dynon...
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:24 PM
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Great! I look forward to removing the fuel tank again! Just as I do to pink eye & cold toilet seats!

I sold my old Cessna and built the RV-12, confident that I would have a modern, cheap to fly, easy to maintain LSA. Becoming very disappointed. My plane weighs 771; paperwork, SBs & maintenance records weigh more!

Dynon is a pleasure to work with, Vans not so much, Rotax abysmal.

Jim
Quick count on Van's aircraft.com showed 32 alerts, bulletins and notifications for the -8. I counted 28 for the -12. Sorry, guess I'm not seeing the catastrophe.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:16 PM
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Oh well, it's a good opportunity to remove any`dangling chads' at the same time. Not that I'm particularly looking forward to opening the tank.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:30 PM
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I think I may draw the line at doing this one. I am not planning on landing so hard that I splay the gear flat up against the wings, which seems to be needed to make this SECOND mod of the tank to be relevant. I am wondering if more hazard is introduced by yet another tank removal, opening, modifying, rivets, and then closing. (I have a split bulkhead and have never removed the tank, the first mod was done during construction.)

If you DO remove your tank again, add the anti-twist mod to the bottom tank connector. You can do the version that does not need more rivets, just held in place with silicone or proseal.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:33 PM
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I think I may draw the line at doing this one. I am not planning on landing so hard that I splay the gear flat up against the wings, ...
That's just the point. The people who need this mod are those that don't plan on landing so hard as to twist the gear box and damage the tank.

However, an engine stoppage resulting in an off airport landing and a leaking fuel tank might just prompt you to wish you had done this service bulletin.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:48 PM
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:15 PM
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Another sign of a fuselage fuel tank design found wanting.

Maybe the anti- fuselage fuel tank crowd are worth listening to. Not a great feature of this design.

What "recent accident" are they referring to? The on-going stream of service related improvements that have, somehow, escaped reporting on this Forum, seem to indicate that 1) the service difficulty reporting system is working - quite well, and 2) there is a lot going on in the fleet that is flying under the radar for this army of operators and observers

Draining, removing, disassembling, rebuilding, re-sealing, retesting, reinstalling this tank is getting more than a little "old."

RV-12ers - Like the Seattle Mariners, a baseball team forever in the "rebuilding mode", -- they should be called the "rebuilders." Maybe the RV-12 too. Maybe RB-12.

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Old 12-30-2013, 08:27 PM
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Great! I look forward to removing the fuel tank again! Just as I do to pink eye & cold toilet seats!

I sold my old Cessna and built the RV-12, confident that I would have a modern, cheap to fly, easy to maintain LSA. Becoming very disappointed. My plane weighs 771; paperwork, SBs & maintenance records weigh more!

Dynon is a pleasure to work with, Vans not so much, Rotax abysmal.

Jim
Jim,

Dynon is a pleasure to work with. No doubts.

Vans are also, and had this been many other kit plane companies, there would likely be no Sb at all.

I think you are suffering the frustration, and i would too, but in the longer term I think you will soon appreciate the efforts Vans go to to produce a quality and safe product.
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