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12-11-2013, 05:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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Of course...
A RV-8 for cross-countries? Wasn't one just recently flown from Oregon to England?....without long range tanks!
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12-11-2013, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton, Nevada --- A34
Posts: 1,464
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Originally Posted by pierre smith
A RV-8 for cross-countries? Wasn't one just recently flown from Oregon to England?....without long range tanks!
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There certainly wasn't a spouse in the backseat, though!
No question that a properly equipped -8 (like all RVs, including the -3) is a fine solo xc machine.
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12-11-2013, 08:53 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tucker GA
Posts: 190
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It's the view
In deciding between the 7 and 8 several years ago, I thought about how I would like to ride in the back seat of an 8 for long trips. Since one of the primary joys of flying oneself, for me at least, is to be able to see forward, or as I describe airline flying, seeing where you almost went instead of where you are going. For me, it's all about the view, and I would not like riding in the back of a tandem arrangement for long periods. Besides, my wife is a white-knuckle flier, only flies with me if I am taking her somewhere she really wants to go, such as to see the Grandkids. She also feels more comfortable beside me, so those two factors made me choose the 7.
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12-12-2013, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Denver
Posts: 7
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Originally Posted by N15JB
I would be happy to give you a ride in my-10 if you want to check out that model. Based at KAPA. Don't bring your wife, unless you are prepared to go down that road.
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Originally Posted by Mike S
Heed this warning, it is serious.
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As I keep telling my wife, I'm not as stupid as I look.....
I would love a -10, after I sell the house, cash out my 401k, etc.
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12-12-2013, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Denver
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDSAM
... one of the primary joys of flying oneself, for me at least, is to be able to see forward, or as I describe airline flying, seeing where you almost went instead of where you are going.
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My wife is very short, and cannot see over the panel.
She would actually have a much better view with the bubble canopy than she has now. She would probably have a better forward view even around my head than she has now.
We'll see when I get her a ride in an -8 
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12-12-2013, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
Posts: 4,652
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If she's short, then she will appreciate the room offered by the -8 even more. A custom seat pad which gets her head up higher offers not only a great view but more leg room than she can use. My wife is 5-1 and with a thick seat pad, she can't even come close to touching the rear rudder pedals in the -8 or the Rocket.
...Which is why I took them out.
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12-12-2013, 07:56 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
Posts: 9,500
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Good point about the cushion. I have a 2" thick styrofoam block cut in the shadow shape of the seat bottom. It's covered with one ply of glass fabric and painted. I slip it under the rear seat cushion before boarding smaller passengers. Being able to easily see over the canopy sills really improves their flight experience.
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12-12-2013, 08:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Pagosa Springs CO
Posts: 243
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RV8 rear seat comfort
Alan,
Before Marcie (my wife) and I bought an RV8, we persuaded Jay Pratt (FT Worth) to provide a ride for both of us in his RV8 "Borrowed Horse." A few thoughts:
1. The rear seat visibility is great if the seat cushion provides adequate elevation. Marcie is about 5', and Oregon Aero built a custom "kiddy seat" for her that brings her head within 2" of the canopy. Thus she has a great view. She is even taking a "Pinch Hitter" course, and has successfully landed from the rear seat. (Plug: Dave Austin of Denton, TX is the best instructor I have met. both for transition and "Pinch Hitter" training).
2. The RV8 has enough baggage space to take anything that you might want to take on the airlines. The only disadvantage is that the baggage cannot be reached in flight. But there is, as posted above, plenty of space in the rear cockpit for anything that might be wanted in flight.
3. Provide your wife with a Gerber electrically heated jacket (or vest) and socks. She'll be warm and toasty, even on the coldest winter day.
4. Above all, get both of you a ride in an RV8. We are located in Pagosa Springs, CO, so if you might be in the area I would be pleased to offer you both a ride. Perhaps Marcie and I could make it an excuse to visit Denver for lunch, if you are interested.
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RV8 flying
2020 VAF dues paid with thanks
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Ret. Corporate Pilot: G1159, IA Jet, Jetstar, Falcon 10, 20, 50
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12-13-2013, 06:15 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Denver
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gear1
We are located in Pagosa Springs, CO, so if you might be in the area I would be pleased to offer you both a ride. Perhaps Marcie and I could make it an excuse to visit Denver for lunch, if you are interested.
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I *will* take you up on that. We have to dig out from 3 weeks of vacation and get past the holidays, but we'd love to come down.
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01-09-2014, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southlake, Texas
Posts: 626
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XC in the RV-8
With the exception of the round the world pilots, Marthajane and I have logged some of the longest RV-8 cross country flights in the Doll. I have made several nonstop flight between OSH and 52F in the 4:45 range and one that exceeded 5:00. I can't imagine doing that in a 6,7 or 9.
Louise is a pilot and aircraft owner, and understandably is happier in the front seat in all three RVs they own. I would guess any builder with a spouse that is a pilot, the question of tandem vs. side by side will be more complicated.
Van now offers the RV-14 to correct the problem of big guys sitting in a cramped RV-6.7 or 9. That is why that airplane exist. I've flown with DR as safety observer while he flew under the hood, and found that an hour in the 6 is long enough for me. I hope DR didn't mind my left arm around him in my attempt to manage our combined shoulder space.
This always comes down to mission and personal preference. If your wife is not a pilot, and you really want to own an RV-8, then consider the fact that you will most likely be flying your 8 by yourself 90% of the time. Because of this fact, I always advise the selection of the RV that the pilot really wants to own.
If you really want an RV-8 and your wife is a pilot, and can share the front seat pilot duties like Paul and Louise, than you should build/buy the RV your really want.
If what you really want is an RV-6.7 or 9, then that is the RV you should own.
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