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Old 11-22-2013, 05:44 PM
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Thanks Greg. Bought at sea level and still at low alt. due to storm in Prescott. Seems to idle fast on ground here. Was worried about white arc since it would not slow down in pattern here. So, skipped the flaps for most of the landings. Easy to land but using a ton of runway. Might wait to adjust things after I get back to thin air. Does Van allow a bit higher speed for the first 15 degrees? No flap indicator on this one, so I have to guestimate postion. I bought it for the speed... but it sure is hard to slow down. Guess I will learn.
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:49 PM
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You don't have to wait to top of white arc in order to "START" adding in flaps. I almost always add about 10 deg of flaps on down wind when I get down to about 90kts. In addition, I find that on early entry into the pattern one can easily trade off speed for altitude. I slight climb will reduce speed enough for early deployment of a small amount of flaps. You will be surprised how much drag the 10 degrees will give you. I guess the bottom line is to plan ahead, as early speed management is important especially with the 9's wing that likes to fly. If all else fails and you find yourself too high and fast you can always slip to decrease altitude without gaining too much speed and then again trade off altitude for speed. It will become second nature after awhile. I'm sure you will get many suggestions from others on the forum.

NOTE:I am not an expert nor a flight instructor, I can only tell what has worked for me so YMMV

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Old 11-22-2013, 05:53 PM
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:54 PM
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Thanks.... love Ramona by the way. Stuck in Bakersfield today, since WX in Prescott is for ducks. I tried a slip and it felt OK... but did not increase the sink all that much. Rudder to the floor. Will try again tomorrow. Might just be lack of planning in pattern, but it builds speed quite fast and does not want to give it up. Will try to see if I cannot get a flap position sensor to feed the Dynon... and see how many degrees are hanging in the breeze. Found it leaks rain on the seats too. Have to work on that one.
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Old 11-22-2013, 06:02 PM
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Thanks.... love Ramona by the way. Stuck in Bakersfield today, since WX in Prescott is for ducks. I tried a slip and it felt OK... but did not increase the sink all that much. Rudder to the floor. Will try again tomorrow. Might just be lack of planning in pattern, but it builds speed quite fast and does not want to give it up. Will try to see if I cannot get a flap position sensor to feed the Dynon... and see how many degrees are hanging in the breeze. Found it leaks rain on the seats too. Have to work on that one.
So what is your warm idle speed (static, on the ground)? I didn't see where you indicated that.

Anything above 600 rpm and you'll float much more than you need to; plus you'll have a greater tendency to balloon on landing. Dropping mine from about 700 to 550 made a lot of difference.
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Old 11-22-2013, 06:10 PM
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Idle is over 850 on ground here at 500ft. Maybe that is prob. When I pull breaker on elec CDI it slows a bit. No tools to pull cowl and adjust.
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Old 11-22-2013, 06:14 PM
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I bought it for the speed... but it sure is hard to slow down. Guess I will learn.
(195 hp- Catto three blade)
195hp on an RV-9? Wow! Although properly managed 195hp might be OK, be sure you have read the Vans articles below. Note that there are two in this one .pdf and the second one relates to RV-9/9A's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/hp_limts.pdf
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:13 PM
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Thanks Mike. Had read the forums forever, but did not join until I owned an RV.
A ton of experience here. At least some good comes from the internet.
Will learn to manage the plane in time. Boy the wings sure look short from the seat. :-)
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:14 PM
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195hp on an RV-9? Wow! Although properly managed 195hp might be OK, be sure you have read the Vans articles below. Note that there are two in this one .pdf and the second one relates to RV-9/9A's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/hp_limts.pdf
Double wow - please, as suggested, read the article. I understand that the added horses may be great for high altitude operation (T/O), but RESPECT Vne. The 9 is not like the 6, 7 and 8s. Enjoy your new plane.
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:28 PM
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Read both articles. Slowly. Good stuff. I think altitude, slippery planes and pitot tube variability dictate extra prudence. I am always at 10k or above. Will heed the VNE and be conservative.
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