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11-19-2013, 06:59 PM
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If you are concerned about the built in GPS, I was receiving signal, sitting in coach on a 737 under all that aluminum, getting live WingX map 34000 ft 537 MPH
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11-20-2013, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bret
If you are concerned about the built in GPS, I was receiving signal, sitting in coach on a 737 under all that aluminum, getting live WingX map 34000 ft 537 MPH
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You are doing better than me! I can't get my iPad3 to log on with GPS when it is sitting right on the glare shield of the A330. Sometimes works on the ground, but airborne it rarely works. Interested to see how the new mini works. I will be getting the cellular, as tethering is just one more problem to worry about and one more unwanted distraction from flying the aircraft.
Oh, if you were in a 737, it is KNOTS, not MPH 
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11-20-2013, 07:28 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dublin, GA
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simplicity
wifi+cellular every time for me.
Its worth $120 to know I will not forget the gps puck, or the wire, or to charge it. I might even want to get a temporary data package sometime while on a trip.
As a data point I have always found my early Ipad 1 and latest Ipad (bought this year) had plenty adequate gps positioning unless I had it tucked away in a side pocket of the RV-10.
Even on those occasions when I tuck it away and lose signal it will still almost always "lock on" when taken out. If it did not it, it still functions fine as a map, which is its primary purpose for me. I mainly navigate with the panel gps anyway.
YMMV
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11-20-2013, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Originally Posted by chrish
You are doing better than me! I can't get my iPad3 to log on with GPS when it is sitting right on the glare shield of the A330. Sometimes works on the ground, but airborne it rarely works. Interested to see how the new mini works. I will be getting the cellular, as tethering is just one more problem to worry about and one more unwanted distraction from flying the aircraft.
Oh, if you were in a 737, it is KNOTS, not MPH 
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Yes yes I know, but I was sitting next to my wife, It was easier to explain, by the way she was not impressed 
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11-20-2013, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Originally Posted by n981ms
wifi+cellular every time for me.
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I was struggling with the same question/idea and as a previous user of an IPAD with cellular, which was only used for the GPS part of it, I knew its performance, limitations and simplicity.
I end up going the route of using the GPS that is provided with Skyradar and here is what I have found,
The accuracy is far greater than the built-in GPS
The simplicity is just the same
I pay Apple $130 less (always a plus for me) and I can use that for Avgas or other toys
The negative is that there is no GPS info if I am not in the plane
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11-20-2013, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: La Feria Texas
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You were wasting money apparently. The IPAD GPS is free, no need to pay Apple 130 a year.
I have found the built in GPS is an accurate and simple as any, works every time with no additional stuff to worry about. As has been said, if you got a cell with a hotspot anyway, it is darned handy as a computer you can carry along..
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Originally Posted by Bavafa
I was struggling with the same question/idea and as a previous user of an IPAD with cellular, which was only used for the GPS part of it, I knew its performance, limitations and simplicity.
I end up going the route of using the GPS that is provided with Skyradar and here is what I have found,
The accuracy is far greater than the built-in GPS
The simplicity is just the same
I pay Apple $130 less (always a plus for me) and I can use that for Avgas or other toys
The negative is that there is no GPS info if I am not in the plane
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11-20-2013, 03:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dublin, GA
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I believe the $130 Mehrdad refers to is in the purchase price not per year.
I can see the argument against if you are using Skyradar or other which has the gps any way. I have not gone the ADSB route yet but I still think I would miss the internal GPS and ability to activate a cellular plan occasionally.
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11-20-2013, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
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Info on new iPad mini
I'm only an occasional iPad user - my wife has a Mini that we share. I keep thinking about getting my own - mostly for flight planning, not to use while flying.
There was a good article in the paper today (WSJ) that reviewed the new Mini that was released last week. The reviewer thought the mini was just as good as the Air if you are OK with the smaller screen size. In fact, the Mini has better resolution than the Air because they both have the same pixel count.
Availabilty of the new Mini is limited right now. I was checking out the Air at Walmart last night and they did not know that the new Mini had been released.
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11-20-2013, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Yeah I think you are correct, I read it too fast, sorry.
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Originally Posted by n981ms
I believe the $130 Mehrdad refers to is in the purchase price not per year.
I can see the argument against if you are using Skyradar or other which has the gps any way. I have not gone the ADSB route yet but I still think I would miss the internal GPS and ability to activate a cellular plan occasionally.
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11-20-2013, 04:08 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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That is sort of how I use mine. For instance at Oshkosh, I activated the cell phone for a month, so I could do email and computer stuff easily, more easily than taking the laptop along. With WingX it also is convenient to have it as a stand alone unit.
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Originally Posted by Rick_A
I'm only an occasional iPad user - my wife has a Mini that we share. I keep thinking about getting my own - mostly for flight planning, not to use while flying.
There was a good article in the paper today (WSJ) that reviewed the new Mini that was released last week. The reviewer thought the mini was just as good as the Air if you are OK with the smaller screen size. In fact, the Mini has better resolution than the Air because they both have the same pixel count.
Availabilty of the new Mini is limited right now. I was checking out the Air at Walmart last night and they did not know that the new Mini had been released.
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