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11-06-2013, 03:55 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Madison, WI
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11-11-2013, 08:27 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Thousand Oaks, California
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Paint scheme
Your paint scheme is similar to the one I'm planning for my RV-8. Yours looks gorgeous! Mine will be based on Lt. Henry Brown's P-51D called the Hun Hunter from Texas. If you don't mind, what brand and color paints did you use? Did you use a clear coat. Any photos would be appreciated. Also, did you paint the interior in a WWII style as well? Nice work and I'll give the nose art some serious thought and get back to you.
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11-12-2013, 08:51 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pottstown PA
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Oh man, you guys Rock. I had completely forgotten about the Warner bros. wolf! Even better, since I operate a gun shop, the wolf with a tommy gun would be perfect. Although Little Red Riding Hood fits the bill too, and would look pretty sexy holding an M2! LOL. And that’s my problem. SO MANY OPTIONS. When I came up with the name I thought it would be easy. A woman with an evil grin reclining on a .50 cal or something... Great idea using youtube to view 40’s era cartoons!
RVMedic;
Paint. Its AF400 with a clear coat on top. I had originally planned on flats but they are a nightmare to maintain. The specific silver was chosen because I felt so many silvers are too bright or pale. I’ll have to dig around for the AF400 codes used from the chip catalog. Just spent 20 minutes looking and I’ll be darned if I can find my paperwork!!!
My specific scheme is representative of a typical 357th FG, 362nd FS aircraft. Code G4-P was flown by several pilots and one, Otto Jenkins, shared the same last name as my Grandmother. As my last name is Powers I wanted to use a code with a P in it, so I just added a BAR under the P, which was common practice if you had two of the same codes in a squadron. However, my scheme is not specific to Otto Jenkins version of G4-P, which was named Floogie II. It’s more a generic nod of thanks to all of the pilots of the 362nd. There were several G4-P’s so I went with the two tone scheme which was common in mid-1944. Another version was all aluminum and flown by Ed Hyman, and named Rolla-U-Bar. Keep in mind if you are going totally authentic, the 357th used a british green, as opposed to the US OD Green, due I suppose, to availability. But during the war these folks used pretty much whatever was available. So U.S. OD green would be fine too. War time P-51s looked like **** compared to what you see at airshows today. Insignia Red? Ha. It was whatever red supply could scrape up. Fine lines? Again, more like; use a piece of card board held against a cowl to make your checker board pattern. Overspray was common. Naturally none of us will do that, SO:
If you want to go even more authentic colors, here are the WWII codes:
Fed Spec 595B:
OD – 1408
Insignia Blue – 15044
Insignia White – 17875
Insignia Red – 11136
Identification Yellow – 13538
Jet Black – 17038
The blue on the Stars & Bars is not as dark as what most folks use today. One thing to be careful about is size ratios. A lot of folks use way too small a Star & Bar. We did the math by scaling for the RV-8 airframe and the outside diameter of the national emblem on the fuselage should be 20.25 inches in diameter. On the wing it should be 25 inches. Of course, after working to make it perfect my painter screwed up and forgot to “indent” the white bar into the inner blue circle. Most people miss it, but it stands out every time I see it.
I’d recommend using vinyl decals for all the detail stuff. That way if you go to sell the RV, the next owner is not stuck with the Unit code and can change it out to whichever of the three squadrons he likes, or just use his initials like so many others do on their WWII RV paint schemes. G4-P for instance, is all vinyl as is all the lettering and stenciling. By the way, the tail number is 5.5 inches tall, which is to scale for the airframe. The Tail number is my serial number, with the appropriate 4 added to the front for 1944.
I’ll post more images shortly.
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RV-8 N710PX "Bad Attitude!"
Last edited by wera710 : 11-12-2013 at 10:20 AM.
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11-12-2013, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pottstown PA
Posts: 209
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RV-8 N710PX "Bad Attitude!"
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11-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Aptos, CA (previously Reno, 21 years!)
Posts: 247
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Great photos! Great writeup too on how you planned your paint scheme and the attention to detail behind all the details!
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11-13-2013, 07:19 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pottstown PA
Posts: 209
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If anyone needs vinyl made, I've used this guy a lot and he is very familiar with the RV airframe. http://woodwaysigns.com/
He even has templates for various WWII paint schemes for RVs if you need them, with locations of stencils and appropriate sizes. He must be into history as he knew exactly what I wanted when I started corresponding about markings and stencils. I had already done the paint design and positioning of the large elements, but his print out of stencil locations really helped. Had a list of vinyl stencils that were appropriate and scaled to the RV size. And if you need to modify something no problem. For instance, the USAAF spec on the port side was changed to reflect my own sense of humor. Also does excellent four color vinyl artwork. An example would be my last tail art design. I drew it, then recreated it in photoshop for color and shading. Mailed him a CD and it came out perfect.
My paint shop is not answering at the moment, so I cannot get the codes for the silver and green yet. Sorry.
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RV-8 N710PX "Bad Attitude!"
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11-13-2013, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,010
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Originally Posted by wera710
Oh, forgot, you asked about the interior. Currently it is the typical RV grey. I plan on repainting it in the proper chromate green and black someday. But thats a long way off as it would require me to quit flying for a while. Here are a few photo...and yes, that IS an N-3C reflector sight from a P-51. lol. Installed for a prank and not a normal fixture while flying. However, it is fully operational...LOL. Just Because....
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Steam gauges give it a very authentic WWII era look. Beautiful plane!
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11-13-2013, 08:16 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pottstown PA
Posts: 209
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HA! Thanks. I am probably the last hold-out on the planet in the RV world. All my buddies have glass and sing its praises. That stuff, to me, just isn't required for the SPORTING side of aviation or even navigation. But thats an argument for another thread and another day. LOL.
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RV-8 N710PX "Bad Attitude!"
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11-15-2013, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lakeland, TN
Posts: 197
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i might use this...
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