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Old 10-18-2013, 10:34 AM
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I am getting ready to replace the panel mounted audio panel with the remote mounted PS Engineering PAC15 to clean up the panel even more. I am also going to replace the SL30 with the new Dynon radio.
Thanks Rob! That looks really nice.

I'm interested in this remote mounted PAC15 you mentioned. I went to PS Engineering website and couldn't find it. Can you direct me to any info on this?

Later found more info. It's sold by GRT. Will/how does this integrate into the Dynon System?
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:58 AM
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Minor point, but the Dynon ADSB box doesn't need any adjustments, service or frequent access.

If you have a rear ADBS antenna you could mount the box somewhere in the area of the rear seats or even further back. This will free a bit of space from behind the panel.

It's easier to send a 4 x #22 wire bundle back there than a stiffer RG400 cable.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:43 PM
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Thanks Rob! That looks really nice.

I'm interested in this remote mounted PAC15 you mentioned. I went to PS Engineering website and couldn't find it. Can you direct me to any info on this?

Will/how does this integrate into the Dynon System?
Here is the link to the PAC15 Manual:
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.c...PAC15EX_IM.pdf

We have implemented a really intuitive interface for the audio panel using the touch screen on the AF-5000 EFIS. We currently sell the PAC15 for the AF-5000 system. You can also play video's on the AF-5000 EFIS screen from your IPad.



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Old 10-18-2013, 01:32 PM
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Justin,

My wife, who is not yet a pilot, has already informed me that whatever I have in front of me, she wants in front of her. From my days in the T-37, I can tell you trying to fly on the gauges cross-cockpit in the goo is a royal pain.

Though I'm still years away from having to make the decision, I'm leaning toward the 3-screen G3X set-up so we both have PFDs and the third can have map+engine instruments and be a back-up if one of the PFD screens decides to go TU.

Just my 2 pesos. (Remember--you get what you pay for )

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Old 10-18-2013, 03:42 PM
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From my days in the T-38, I learned that it's nice sitting on the centerline and having everything in front of me!
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:40 PM
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:38 PM
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Justin,

Excellent planning approach to the panel/wiring installation. This kind of advance planning will pay off in many saved hours fitting and thinking. I did my behind the panel work with the idea of how it was going to be removed. I have a 7 tipper, but since the area under the tip up can get wet, I moved many things forward. Everything (I think) can be reached from the front or below with one screwdriver in hand. Plate-nuts abound. The beauty of your design process is you can now plan the wiring runs. That will make the process much quicker. Too bad I dont have your CAD skills.

Consider adding some structure to allow mounting the boxes more compactly, like books on a shelf. Then Stein can reach them.

Also think about how you will reach in there to buck the rivets.

Again, great process.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:14 PM
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My experience says exactly what Stein said. Radio stack between the screens, add the Nav, stay out of the area forward if the sub panel. I've spent way too much time up under the panel with one hand and sweat in my eyes.
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:33 AM
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Default Panel Plan Rev 2

I updated the plan. Rearranged the avionics behind the panel, added an independent mini efis, and changed to the Garmin 650.

I swapped the location of the MFD and Garmin box, which has now changed to the GTN 650 to include ILS and VOR capabilities. I also added the AvMap mini efis/adahrs, it's a standalone system completely independent of the Dynon Skyview and has it's own Pitot/Static input for airspeed and altitude readouts. I also added a second iPad mini for passenger (wife) entertainment. Behind the panel mounted iPad will be a small "glove box" storage compartment. The iPad mounted to the center console will be running Foreflight.


This is a diagram showing all the avionics, instruments, and antennas required for the aircraft. This does not include: switches, probes, lights, or sensors. Note changes: Garmin 650 instead of 635 and added the Mini Efis.


This is a diagram showing the location of each component along with other view orientations.
Note:
- All of the components have been moved onto or aft of the subpanel.
- The VP-X will be mounted on a plate that spans the instrument panel lower angle and sub panel lip. This allows easy access to the component for the large quantity of wiring that will be going to it.
- The ribs do not need to be modified. Only the subpanel will need to be modified to allow the GTN 650 installation.
- The Transceiver and Transponder are mounted directly to the existing tunnel cover side by side.
- The new center console will be made from fiberglass and can be relatively thin since the only thing that is installing to it is the iPad mini.

This is the plan for now...and is still subsequent to change at any time : )
Thanks everyone for your input! Let me hear what you think of the update.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:12 AM
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Now that Panel I really like! Not much to change anymore, except if at all possible you will benefit from having the GTN a bit higher up in the stack (as high as possible). I know you are being wary of that center rib tough (there are workarounds).

The only other thing I'd do is swap your D1 and the Dynon Comm radio. The comm is something you're likely going to use on every flight, multiple times per flight, so having part of it hid behind the bezel on the right side of the backup EFIS would be eliminated by having them swapped (and access/viewing would be better a well). That falls in line with keeping the stuff you use most often as handy as possible, while still keeping a pleasing form. Typically we try to design for the 99th percentile, while keeping an eye on the 1th percentile - all while trying to balance form and function.

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