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08-20-2013, 08:05 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Sale, Victoria, Australia
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Autopilot recommendations?
Does anyone know of a single axis autopilot capable of disengaging the servo when the autopilot is not active?
I am building an RV4 and was planning to use a Digitrak single axis autopilot, however I am somewhat concerned about having residual servo drag on the ailerons and none on the elevator. I do mostly local flying, basic aeros and wish to retain the light harmonised feel of the 4. The autopilot installation is primarily for safety reasons and to reduce workload on the occasional cross country flight (hence single axis only).
Thanks in advance for any suggestions or recommendations.
Darren
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08-20-2013, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blowfly
Does anyone know of a single axis autopilot capable of disengaging the servo when the autopilot is not active?
I am building an RV4 and was planning to use a Digitrak single axis autopilot, however I am somewhat concerned about having residual servo drag on the ailerons and none on the elevator. I do mostly local flying, basic aeros and wish to retain the light harmonised feel of the 4. The autopilot installation is primarily for safety reasons and to reduce workload on the occasional cross country flight (hence single axis only).
Thanks in advance for any suggestions or recommendations.
Darren
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You won't find the TruTrak servo drag noticeable in flight, but if you want a system with a servo that has a clutch that completely disengages, you need to look at the Trio EZ-Pilot:
http://www.trioavionics.com/ez_pilot.htm
The fact that the EZ-Pilot is superbly supported by the manufacturer is an added bonus.
Last edited by Sam Buchanan : 08-20-2013 at 08:27 PM.
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08-20-2013, 09:51 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
You won't find the TruTrak servo drag noticeable in flight, but if you want a system with a servo that has a clutch that completely disengages, you need to look at the Trio EZ-Pilot:
http://www.trioavionics.com/ez_pilot.htm
The fact that the EZ-Pilot is superbly supported by the manufacturer is an added bonus.
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Thankyou for the Trio EZ-Pilot suggestion Sam.
The Trio does look very good and appears to have many features including the clutch arrangement. I do like the simplisity of the Digitrak however, and its 2 1/4" format will save some space on my panel. I'm sure you are right about the residual servo drag feeling much worse when the ailerons are unloaded on the ground. I'll give it a bit more thought. Thanks again for your input.
Darren
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08-20-2013, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Calgary, Canada
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Flew my 6 for over a year with no AP. Now 30 hours or so with Trutrak servos (2 axis in my case). With the AP off, I can't tell the difference. Never even thought about it until seeing this post. Really, not an issue. I hear the Trio is good too. Good to have choices.
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08-21-2013, 04:33 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
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I've flown the same RV-8 with a TT autopilot and a clutched servo and later with a non-clutched servo. The difference was moderately apparent when parked in the hangar but not apparent in flight.
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08-21-2013, 05:26 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: OH
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servo drag
In my 4 I have Tru Trak servos and Efis. I notice a slight drag when the AP is off and the servos have power. If I want a feel in the stick that is without the slight drag, I pull both the pitch and roll servo breakers. Without power to the servos the drag is very, very slight.
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08-21-2013, 06:54 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ridgetop, Tennessee
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Does anyone know of a single axis autopilot capable of disengaging the servo when the
Go with the "Trio", You'll never know it's there! I just love mine, never a problem in 730 hrs of service.
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08-21-2013, 07:18 AM
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been here awhile
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blowfly
Thankyou for the Trio EZ-Pilot suggestion Sam.
The Trio does look very good and appears to have many features including the clutch arrangement. I do like the simplisity of the Digitrak however, and its 2 1/4" format will save some space on my panel. I'm sure you are right about the residual servo drag feeling much worse when the ailerons are unloaded on the ground. I'll give it a bit more thought. Thanks again for your input.
Darren
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Not sure how you can get much simpler than pushing one button and the device is guiding your plane. That is all that is needed to activate the EZ-Pilot. But it also has a really complete feature set that allows you to do some cool stuff if you wish. I quickly got spoiled to the display which almost makes it unnecessary to even look at the GPS. But if you need the small format the DigiTrak will be a good option.
But I readily admit I'm biased, been flying Trio autopilots for nearly ten years, all the way from the earliest releases up to the Pro Pilot. 
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08-21-2013, 08:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Springdale, AR
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Just an FYI, but the Digitrak is no longer in production as of EXTREMELY recently.  Parts supplies again. Fortunately this part is simply cosmetic (buttons of all things) so internal components are still readily available. We do have the Vizion 280 available as its replacement in the same 2 1/4" form factor. The Vizion series is currently in beta testing. We should have it ready to go within 4-6 weeks.
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08-21-2013, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: United States
Posts: 263
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Sure wish there was an "AP101 Buyers Guide." I'm at the point of deciding to install an AP in my -4, and while I'll probably be going AFS or Dynon, I've looked over the Trutrak, EZ and Pro on Trio, and AP pages of AFS and Dynon and it's all a bit confusing. Just when I thought I decided what servo's to purchase, I found out that manufacture doesn't sell one of the two mounts needed for a -4.  I'd like to do the 'add-on' servo's for the AFS or Dynon since the controls are integrated and eliminates another panel mount device, as well as removes some weight, but maybe I'm overlooking some advantages to having a stand-alone controller?
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