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Old 08-15-2013, 08:24 PM
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The main owner of the plane had moved so had not received the registration information.
AND he had not told the FAA of his new address. This is exactly why we all now have to put up with this.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:59 AM
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And the entertainment with the FAA continues......

The main owner of the plane sent in the registration in and had signed it as "president" of the LLC. The FAA rejected the reregistration because he was supposed to put "manager". Now we have to send it in again and who knows how long it will take the second time around.

I think that this is just plan old harassment at this point.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:53 AM
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As already stated, the online system works just fine and no change in actual expiration date. Submitted mine on the 14th and received new registration card in the mail yesterday (19th). 5 days with a weekend stuck in is darn quick especially for a government agency.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:44 PM
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Same thing happened to me. I listed "shareholder" of the LLC and they rejected the paperwork. So now I'd like to know what will happen when/if I don't register or re-register ??? Funny thing about my airplanes - they depend on the laws of physics to fly and don't really care about paperwork.
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:03 PM
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Same thing happened to me. I listed "shareholder" of the LLC and they rejected the paperwork. So now I'd like to know what will happen when/if I don't register or re-register ??? Funny thing about my airplanes - they depend on the laws of physics to fly and don't really care about paperwork.
If you don't register the airplane, it is not airworthy in the FAA's eyes. Remember "ARROW?" Airworthiness, Registration, Radio License (optional now,) Operating Limitations, Weight and Balance. The paperwork/information required to fly legally.

As a practical matter, an FAA inspector can override the laws of physics.

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Old 08-21-2013, 08:46 AM
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Got mine Saturday, and am waiting for an 8010 form from my fsdo to re-register. Guess its my fault for not noticing it had expired. Got one for my Bonanza too, and they wanted pictures of it. Thanks a lot, bin laden. Rest assured I'm not flying while in registration limbo. =)
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:30 AM
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Same thing happened to me. I listed "shareholder" of the LLC and they rejected the paperwork. So now I'd like to know what will happen when/if I don't register or re-register ??? Funny thing about my airplanes - they depend on the laws of physics to fly and don't really care about paperwork.
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If you don't register the airplane, it is not airworthy in the FAA's eyes. Remember "ARROW?" Airworthiness, Registration, Radio License (optional now,) Operating Limitations, Weight and Balance. The paperwork/information required to fly legally.

As a practical matter, an FAA inspector can override the laws of physics.

John Clark ATP, CFI
FAAST Team Representative
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Insurance carriers (and lawyers) can also override the laws of physics.
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Old 03-21-2014, 03:12 PM
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I was stationed overseas for a year with my RV-4 in the care of a friend. I never recieved my impending expiration notice. When I got back stateside, I recieved a new assignment and moved to Rapid City, SD.

So after the move I went online to update my address and was quite alarmed to discover that my registration expired MONTHS ago! The support phone number on the website was perpetually busy. So I followed the instructions online to the letter--which informed me that once expired, you cannot renew a registration online.

The website instructed me to fill out and sign an AC Form 8050-1B, enclose a check for $5, and send to Oklahoma City. Then check periodically online to see when your renewal was approved.

Five weeks later (!) my daily website check informed me that there was a problem with my renewal. I immediately e-mailed the FAA per the website instructions, was pleased that they responded right away, but was displeased with the response. They told me that once your registration has expired, the 8050-1B is not appropriate and that I have to send in a signed copy of an AC Form 8050-1 (which I should point out asks for exactly the same information as the 8050-1B).

So I replied back and pointed out to them that I had followed web site instructions to. the. letter. Again, a surprisingly prompt reply informed me that they regret the error, they will fix the web site, and that I still owe them a 8050-1.

Lucky for me I kept two signed copies of the bill of sale from when I bought the airplane nine years ago. So hopefully I got it right this time and I'll be back in the air...in about five weeks.

BL: if you can at all help it, don't let your registration expire. And if you're going to be out of the country, make sure you're still getting your mail.

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