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08-08-2013, 08:30 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,563
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Originally Posted by flybill7
Tip Up +2. Awesome visibility. That's what its all about. I flew in a RV-7A with slider a couple of times. That vertical bar in the middle? You gotta be kidding me. So the tip-up gets a little warm on the ground, big deal.
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Ummm, spoken by a Nor-Easterner. Spend a summer or two down in the southern tier states and you might have a change of heart on that
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. . .gets a little warm on the ground, big deal.
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statement.
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08-08-2013, 08:40 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Severna Park, Maryland
Posts: 446
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Tip-Up
I can assure you it gets pretty warm in Maryland in the summer. In fact, the canopy is the least of my worries. Because my 7 is polished aluminum, on a hot sunny day the entire plane heats up so much I have to wear gloves getting into it so I don't burn my hands on the hot metal. That would happen with the slider too.
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08-08-2013, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Posts: 3,152
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Originally Posted by RVbySDI
Ummm, spoken by a Nor-Easterner. Spend a summer or two down in the southern tier states and you might have a change of heart on that statement.
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Or not  .
We love our tipper. Heck, my -8 project is a tipper too.
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08-08-2013, 08:45 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Edinburg, TX
Posts: 617
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Slider for me. 105 yesterday and lots of thermals. Very bumpy ride. Cinch down the belts and grab onto the bar for support. After I landed I could not wait to get the canopy open for some of that hot air.
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08-08-2013, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,563
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybill7
I can assure you it gets pretty warm in Maryland in the summer. In fact, the canopy is the least of my worries. Because my 7 is polished aluminum, on a hot sunny day the entire plane heats up so much I have to wear gloves getting into it so I don't burn my hands on the hot metal. That would happen with the slider too.
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Well, last night I was watching the weather on the local newscast. At 10:15pm it was 88 deg F, 68% relative humidity with a dewpoint of 74 deg F. That put the heat index around 97 deg F. As Doug stated on the front page today; Shade is "heart healthy" around here also. In these conditions even sitting in the shade is uncomfortable. In most instances on a return from a cross country flight, when I descend below ~3000' there is an instantaneous opening of the flood gates. As soon as the wheels touch down the slider comes open to get any relief possible.
I think the visibility on the tip up is fantastic. I would love to have it myself but being as I have an insufferable propensity to overheat very easily, the slider won out because of the ability to quickly get airflow in the cockpit on the ground. Not to mention, I love the slider/tipper option I installed that allows for easy access from above to the baggage area.
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Originally Posted by scard
Or not  .
We love our tipper. Heck, my -8 project is a tipper too.
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You guys have a great plane. I cannot wait to check out the 8 when you finish it. No doubt in my mind it is going to be a super plane also.
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08-08-2013, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,761
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVbySDI
Ummm, spoken by a Nor-Easterner. Spend a summer or two down in the southern tier states and you might have a change of heart on that statement.
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I've spent 70 summers down here, over 20 with my tip-up, and still wouldn't trade.
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08-08-2013, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton, Nevada --- A34
Posts: 1,464
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Another for the tip-up
I certainly agree that different folks should make different choices and one should go with what they want. I believe the chose is really between whether you want to look cool on the ground (definately slider) or look cool in the air (tip-up, for sure). I hate the slider's bar in my vision, although the thought that it might enhance safety is an interesting one. I wonder if there is any evidence to back up that thought? The slider bar is a real pain that pretty much prevents great air-to-air photos.
I consider the "less hot on the ground" argument mostly a red-herring. Once the tip-up is popped up on roll-out and while taxiing, the cooling breeze is very effective. I have never chosen to fly our slider-equipped plane over one of the tip-up/tip-over planes because the temperature was elevated in Houston. The difference just isn't noticeable (to me).
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08-08-2013, 01:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: KTCY
Posts: 643
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Louise Hose
The slider bar is a real pain that pretty much prevents great air-to-air photos.
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Wonder how we got all of ours then
SAFETY = SLIDER
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08-09-2013, 10:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 818
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I am a Tip-Up-Aholic
My name is .... and I am a Tip-Up-Aholic for the past 2 1/2 years.
Here in Tucson Arizona where it gets real hot in summer we have several RV's in the area.
Of the RV 6/7/9's that were built in Tucson that I know personally, 7 are tip-ups and 2 are sliders. So 78% are tip-ups.
If you are worried about being hot while taxing, just open the tip-up canopy to the vent position and enjoy. If its 100+ degrees out on the tarmac I don't believe either canopy configuration is going to make it more comfortable, its just hot. If you have a Kroger Sunshade it still works well with the canopy in the vent position (not so with sunshade in a slider with canopy open).
When I fly my tip-up I truly forget I have a canopy in front of me. When I have flown in sliders I am always reminded of the roll bars presence.
I have come to grips with tip-up addition and I am proud to call myself a Tip-Up-Aholic.
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08-09-2013, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pmerems
When I fly my tip-up I truly forget I have a canopy in front of me.
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That's a problem with tip-ups. I get smudge prints on the inside of it when I reach out to point at something as if there was no canopy. 
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