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08-05-2013, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin TX
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smoke system helper - anyone have this system?
Just curious. He has dedicated 6/7/9 tanks that look really spiffy.
http://www.smoke-system-helper.com
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08-05-2013, 05:03 PM
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Looks like a neat way to utilize the angled space behind the seats of a 6/7/9 if you haven't already used that space for something else. My -6 already has a Whelen strobe power pack mounted there on one side, and the ELT on the other. I've got a big rectangular Smoking Airplanes tank and pump assembly that's removable and mounts to the center of the baggage floor with thumbscrews and brackets... it pretty much ruins most of the baggage-carrying area back there when installed too.
I noticed something on that website that kinda worries me... he uses filtered, old auto trans fluid as smoke oil. Isn't vaporized transmission fluid a bit too much on the dangerously flammable side to be safe for this? (see http://garrett-engineers.com/index.p...d=79&Itemid=82)
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08-05-2013, 06:45 PM
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yeah I like the container/pump etc.. but was just wondering about whether the setup was worth the price and if it was a solid unit.
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Originally Posted by Neal@F14
Looks like a neat way to utilize the angled space behind the seats of a 6/7/9 if you haven't already used that space for something else. My -6 already has a Whelen strobe power pack mounted there on one side, and the ELT on the other. I've got a big rectangular Smoking Airplanes tank and pump assembly that's removable and mounts to the center of the baggage floor with thumbscrews and brackets... it pretty much ruins most of the baggage-carrying area back there when installed too.
I noticed something on that website that kinda worries me... he uses filtered, old auto trans fluid as smoke oil. Isn't vaporized transmission fluid a bit too much on the dangerously flammable side to be safe for this? (see http://garrett-engineers.com/index.p...d=79&Itemid=82)
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08-05-2013, 06:56 PM
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Well... welded aluminum tanks are generally pretty sturdy things. Whether it's worth the cost is up to whatever value the purchaser places on such an installation. If I were in the market for such, I'd seriously consider it myself since it would help get some weight shifted a bit more forward than my existing smoke oil tank and aft weight in the baggage area is an always an issue on 320-engined 6/7/9 models with lightweight props.
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08-05-2013, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berea KY
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I know Marvin and have seen his tanks and system. Marvin is a Swift driver as I am. The tanks and nozzles I have seen are first class. I especially like his strap on nozzles that do not require welding. Marvin can give you all the info on automatic tran fluid. He uses it because it is cheap. His system will work with any smoke oil. Several Swifts use his system....the tank is the square one for the Swift. I did see his new RV tank at Oshkosh....looked excellent.
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08-06-2013, 07:24 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Denver, CO
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I'm preparing to be the first customer of that "angled" tank. I had planned to do my own fiberglass version of this since I think its a great way to utilize that space. Doing this, I keep more of my baggage area useful. When I saw his welded version, I figured I will save the time and headache of doing my own--and its a slick looking tank. Flop tube is already built in and comes with a vented cap. Marvin and I discussed it before he left for OSH, he was very helpful answering my questions. I'll do a full writeup on my blog about the install. The pump and injectors have already been bought and are partially installed.
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08-06-2013, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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cool. yes. waiting for your writeup!
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I'm preparing to be the first customer of that "angled" tank. I had planned to do my own fiberglass version of this since I think its a great way to utilize that space. Doing this, I keep more of my baggage area useful. When I saw his welded version, I figured I will save the time and headache of doing my own--and its a slick looking tank. Flop tube is already built in and comes with a vented cap. Marvin and I discussed it before he left for OSH, he was very helpful answering my questions. I'll do a full writeup on my blog about the install. The pump and injectors have already been bought and are partially installed.
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08-23-2013, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Huffman TX
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Smoke
I received my kit today. The tank is the main thing and let me tell you as a guy who has built 33 flying machines; the tank is excellent quality!! Fits perfect in that space!
Installing soon!
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08-23-2013, 04:37 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
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Pics of the tank and the installation, please?
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08-23-2013, 05:28 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Photos here. Looks good so far.
http://www.smoke-system-helper.com/photos/
Ron, when you get it installed, I would like to come see it.
Last edited by Ron Lee : 08-23-2013 at 05:32 PM.
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