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07-31-2013, 10:26 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by bkthomps
i always thought there was some sort of correlation between air shows and strip clubs
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Well, I've certainly enjoyed the money spent on airplanes a lot more than the money spent in strip clubs
Maybe I'm doing it wrong 
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07-31-2013, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Polished airplane
My first airplane was a polished RV-8 and a magnet for people and pilots in many cases, to paw all over the shiny surface.
One I remember brushed his hand over the freshly polished wing, all the while complimenting me on the brilliant aluminum surface. After he noticed the fresh scratch marks he proceeded to use his shirt sleeve to try and polish it out  yikes...
The whole subject is a bit of a dilemma, on one hand trying to get people interested in airplanes and on the other hand trying to keep them at arms length to prevent the tire kickers from doing damage.
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08-01-2013, 09:32 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 377
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Might need to look at this a little different
I've been monitoring this thread and I would like to offer an alternate POV that if embraced may reduce some folk's stress level. BLUF, an airplane is a tool. We use it to get somewhere. Either physically, mentally or both. We also use it as a catalyst to create/improve relationships. A tool is going to show use. That brand new look is the price you pay for using the it and even though it doesn't look brand new, it is still perfectly functional. Sometimes it is even better. Remember scars are tattoos with a story. On the other hand, abusing or breaking a tool does cause lost of use. Bottom line here, there is a big difference between someone touching your airplane and breaking your airplane. It will fly fine with a smudge or small scratch. Don't sweat the small stuff and use your tool (sts) the way it was intended. It was not built just to look at. It was built to fly.
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08-01-2013, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Western US
Posts: 98
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I agree, but in my case (woman using my horizontal stab as a changing table) the airworthiness of my old airplane was what I was concerned about.
A little poop or some scratches were the least of my worries 
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08-01-2013, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
Posts: 2,247
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At some point I will have a finished RV-7, painted and flying. And at some point I'll probably be somewhere that some of you will also be. Consider this my pre-emptive, blanket permission to ogle, gawk, touch and otherwise paw at my airplane in a responsible, adult manner (as in, just don't scratch or break anything and keep yer mitts off the avionics). I won't yell at you for touching a wingtip or resting your hand on the canopy rail.

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Omaha, NE
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08-01-2013, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Quincy, Florida
Posts: 680
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abuse
Undisciplined children running up and down the top side of the wing or doing chin ups on the elevator just isn't acceptable. I agree that my airplane will show wear as it is slowly used up. No problem with that, but you don't see parents allowing children to jump up and down on the hood of show cars ......any cars for that matter. It's the undisciplined abuse of the airplanes that I dislike. The smudges and touching; even a "want to be" builder exploring the airplane is no real bother. I encourage that and answer all the questions I can. Unacceptable abuse by undisciplined children has driven me away from "public" fly-ins. It's just beyond me how people these days have no respect for other people's property.
OK, I'm done fussing about it. On to more important things.
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08-01-2013, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
Posts: 4,652
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Agreed. The comparative "tank like" show car gets more respect than the fragile aircraft. As if scratches on a car's paint job are somehow worse than structural damage to an aircraft.
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08-01-2013, 10:58 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Delaware, OH (KDLZ)
Posts: 4,196
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I had a friend that had his RV in the Homebuilder's Pavalion for a presentation this week. They couldn't get it out of the building after the presentation, so they agreed to let it sit and go have lunch.
When he returned from lunch, he found two men sitting in the plane playing with the controls and knobs on the panel. These men didn't think twice about getting into an aircraft that they had no idea who owned it and why it was parked where is was.
It's ironic in that who would do the same in a car parked at the mall?
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08-01-2013, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KRTS
Posts: 1,798
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cguarino
I've been monitoring this thread and I would like to offer an alternate POV that if embraced may reduce some folk's stress level. BLUF, an airplane is a tool. We use it to get somewhere. Either physically, mentally or both. We also use it as a catalyst to create/improve relationships. A tool is going to show use. That brand new look is the price you pay for using the it and even though it doesn't look brand new, it is still perfectly functional. Sometimes it is even better. Remember scars are tattoos with a story. On the other hand, abusing or breaking a tool does cause lost of use. Bottom line here, there is a big difference between someone touching your airplane and breaking your airplane. It will fly fine with a smudge or small scratch. Don't sweat the small stuff and use your tool (sts) the way it was intended. It was not built just to look at. It was built to fly.
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You can treat yours however you want, others treat them like the art that they are, and invest their time and money to create such things.
My hangar mate spent nearly $20K on his paint job, he crafted a beautiful airplane, he is meticulous in keeping it beautiful. Woe be the individual whose kid scratches it at an airshow or fly-in, and if it were me and you gave me this excuse in person.... we'd have serious problems.
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08-01-2013, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cguarino
I've been monitoring this thread and I would like to offer an alternate POV that if embraced may reduce some folk's stress level. BLUF, an airplane is a tool. We use it to get somewhere. Either physically, mentally or both. We also use it as a catalyst to create/improve relationships. A tool is going to show use. That brand new look is the price you pay for using the it and even though it doesn't look brand new, it is still perfectly functional. Sometimes it is even better. Remember scars are tattoos with a story. On the other hand, abusing or breaking a tool does cause lost of use. Bottom line here, there is a big difference between someone touching your airplane and breaking your airplane. It will fly fine with a smudge or small scratch. Don't sweat the small stuff and use your tool (sts) the way it was intended. It was not built just to look at. It was built to fly.
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I didn't build this tool to let somebody else break it. There will be serious problems and probably newspaper headlines if that happens to my bird.
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Garden City, TX VAF 2020 dues paid 
N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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