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07-24-2013, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by vlittle
If I was GRT, MGL, TT or VP I would be afraid, very afraid...
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I wasn't going to chime in here, but since you mentioned us... GRT has great stability, low overhead and solid goals for the future. We are not afraid.
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Katie Bosman
RV-3B sold, but flying!
Next project: ???
Builders gonna build...
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07-24-2013, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by KatieB
I wasn't going to chime in here, but since you mentioned us... GRT has great stability, low overhead and solid goals for the future. We are not afraid.
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GRT makes a great product at a reasonable price, and has excellent customer service. I'm not worried for you guys 
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07-24-2013, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
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Innovation frequently is from the smaller companies. I see Big G is touting its newest feature - a green arc on the map showing where you'll intercept the set altitude. A feature that GRT has had for years.
I sure hope you (I mean all the small companies) stay around.
[ed. Didn't the G1000 have this feature back in 2009? My uneducated guess, Bob, is they are simply migrating certified, top-level code downward into the experimental stuff. dr]
Edit reply: maybe, I don't know. Just commenting on what's posted today on VAF.
Last edited by BobTurner : 07-24-2013 at 04:54 PM.
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07-24-2013, 12:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KatieB
I wasn't going to chime in here, but since you mentioned us... GRT has great stability, low overhead and solid goals for the future. We are not afraid.
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Sounds like an Eminem (from Michigan too) song  "We are not afraid"
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07-24-2013, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
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Mike, I root for the underdog as much as anyone else, and Garmin is an easy target because they're big (well, bigger) and all. I don't see anything that they've done that has been anti-competitive, though. Their experimental offerings are not priced all that aggressively -- they're on par with Dynon from what I have seen. They're supporting some non-Garmin products such as autopilots. They're just big because they're an older company with a broad product line, including consumer stuff (and seriously, who in their right mind wants that market??) and in the aviation market they have spent BIG money to get their products certified. Personally, I'm a little surprised that there are as many experimental EFIS manufacturers as there are. Given the size of the market, I'd expect to see about half as many.
As for the Dynon/AFS deal, I wish them all the best. I don't recall ever seeing a deal like this really result in two "separate but equal" companies and product lines that just happen to be owned by the same people. The Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus comparisons are not exactly spot on, because Lexus and Acura (and Infiniti, and so on) were created as brands for marketing higher-end offerings from manufacturers not exactly known at that time for building luxury cars.
I know it could work, and I know how I'd make it work, but I'm sure they have their own business plan. I'm looking forward to seeing how all of this shakes out. I'm at least a year out from making any panel decisions, so I'm glad the Garmin expansion into the experimental market and this deal are happening now, not when I'm trying to actually make a decision. For those who are making their buying decisions now, I feel for you. I'm glad I'll be able to let things stabilize for another year or so.
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Omaha, NE
RV-12 # 222 N980KM "Screamin' Canary" (bought flying)
Fisher Celebrity (under construction)
Previous RV-7 project (sold)
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07-24-2013, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Good business
I'm with you Dale. We are both about the same place in our build.
I agree. This may be a blessing.
Now as for engines... 
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Larry Larson
Estes Park, CO
http://wirejockrv7a.blogspot.com
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
Disclaimer
I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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07-24-2013, 05:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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I can just imagine the two Robs sitting back enjoying a cold adult beverage, and reading this thread..............
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Mike Starkey
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Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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07-24-2013, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marshall TX (KASL)
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Disclosure: I LOVE my RV-12 Dynon Skyview. I LOVE my Garmin auto Nuvi. I LOVED the Garmin 430 we put in our Bonanza. The rise of Garmin has been one of the most important things in avionics ... Ever.
In the South we have a saying: You dance with who brung ya. Garmin stuff is GREAT but often just "barely" affordable. And updates? Very expensive... But then it is very expensive to create TSO avionics and they stepped up with the investment and capability and revolutionized the industry. Years elapse, and now we think of them as Microsoft... And with some justification.
In the experimental world I think we do ourselves a long term favor to ensure avionics competition. Keepthat in mind as you make your buying decisions.
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07-24-2013, 10:08 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 120
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Kind of reminds me of when...
...JPI bought Vision MicroSystems. VM is now dead. What'd that take, about 3-4 years?
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09-05-2013, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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