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Old 07-22-2013, 06:02 PM
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Holy cow I have seen this before.... more to come.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:27 PM
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Both Dynon and AFS have been committed to the Experimental Aircraft market for more than 13 years. We have been friendly competitors who have always had mutual respect for each other and a common desire to bring the best to Homebuilders. With the combined engineering, manufacturing and product support resources of both companies our customers will be the clear winners.

The close proximity of Dynon in Seattle and AFS, near Van?s Aircraft, in Portland makes working together extremely convenient. As we have proven multiple times in the last month, Dynon and AFS are less than hour apart in the RV-10.

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Old 07-22-2013, 06:46 PM
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So what happened to the trutrak partnership?
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:46 PM
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I have experience in mergers and acquisitions of several technology companies. In my experience, the best way to maximize the potential is to have a personnel exchange program.

Send some engineers from Dynon to AFS and vice versa for at least a few months. When they return, they become champions of the opposite divisions, and will have made friends and important relationships that will help the integration.

If possible, permanent swaps can help as well. This advice is free :-)

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Old 07-22-2013, 06:56 PM
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While this is a little different than our original vision, the truth is that it makes a lot of sense. All three companies are very positive about this move. It will give the customers better products and support.

TruTrak will continue to be a dealer for the AFS product line, and will continue working very closely with Rob and his team. The AF Pilot will continue being sold as part of the AFS product line.

Many people do not realize how closely these three companies have been working. Each company is active in the ASTM light sport, and avionics standards. We have also been active participants in the part 23 rewrites and various other projects.

I can assure you that we all will continue working very closely together.

This is not big corporate aviation. It is still small companies with very high owner participation, doing what we love.

I personally look forward to continuing to work with both AFS and Dynon.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:05 PM
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If possible, permanent swaps can help as well. This advise is free :-)

If I was GRT, MGL, TT or VP I would be afraid, very afraid...
Vern, I appreciate you view on everything electronic. Why VP ?
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:17 PM
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In my opinion, and that is all we have, I think this is a very good move.

Dynon has always been a VERY well run and cashed company. Not informed about AFS but their product is good.

This is not unlike many car companies, well lets say European ones, some in the USA have not been a good example.

Best products on the IFR market in my opinion. I fly behind G1000 at times and the engine monitor sucks, the rest of the system is not nice either. The other Garmin gear is good, Aspen is nice but overall the best two I have had experience with including many of the other experimentals has been AFS and Dynon so the deal has the best potential for all customers in my opinion.

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Old 07-23-2013, 07:23 AM
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I've never seen an acquisition quite like this. Buying a direct competitor, keeping them fully intact (with no integration) to continue to compete against you. It seems ridiculous on the face of it, but it may turn out to be pure genius if you examine it closer.

Lets think about this, Garmin is the obvious big kid on the block because of their reputation and resources. If AFS goes away, Garmin's market share will most likely jump significantly and Dynon would have a hard time not losing ground to them and maybe even fading away if momentum really swung.

The alternative to this move for Dynon would be to take the money they used to buy AFS and expand. That would be much more difficult to do than buying the infrastructure, IP and reputation that AFS already has in place. Doing that, you not only do you keep AFS as a player in the game, but you make them a stronger player. To me, this has everything to do with taking on the big kid on the block with some help from your friends. Without Garmin strongly entering the homebuilt market, this acquisition may not have happened...just MHO.

Time will tell how successful this strategy will be, but I think this is a good move for us, as consumers. More players in the game is always better than fewer, even if two of them are funded by the same source. I think its clear that Dynon and AFS are passionate about their business and I like that. I wish them luck.
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I think its clear that Dynon and AFS are passionate about their business and I like that. I wish them luck.
That is the key, make no mistake about it.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:04 AM
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For anyone who has sat or flown behind both the Skyview and the AFS Decks know how completely different they are. As Stein has quoted many times, they are for different missions. But with everything both companies can bring to the table, I also see this as a very positive merge meant to truly benefit the consumer. With such a small, but widely diverse target market in the terms of mission/budget needs, creating an environment that will let Rob and his crew continue to advance his product and bring down the prices to more than compete with Garmin is a win win for us. I put the AFS AoA in my wings and am in the process of deciding which pitot to run, and by the time I am ready to pick which EFIS will be right for me, hopefully it will be as Dynon says and much cheaper. Only time will tell, but I am very optimistic.
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