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06-11-2013, 11:52 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newnan, GA
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MOA status website: See and Avoid
I was just planning a flight to St. Simons Island, GA tomorrow and was checking the status of all the MOA's along the route. Wanted to post this for those interested. You can type in your state and see a graphical status of the MOA's on a map as either Cold, Pending, or Hot and clicking on the area lists the days/times of the status as well as floors/ceilings.
http://www.seeandavoid.org/

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Last edited by bkilby : 06-11-2013 at 11:58 AM.
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06-11-2013, 11:58 AM
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Great site, thanks for posting it.
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06-11-2013, 12:42 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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I live smack dab in the middle of the Bulldog MOA and always use Flight Following on cross-countries. They can only provide guidance up to the edge of the MOA if it's hot.
I have had cold MOA's go hot while I was enroute and FF will drop you like a hot potato when that happens, if you're in it at the time.
Best,
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06-11-2013, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, TX (ADS)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pierre smith
I live smack dab in the middle of the Bulldog MOA and always use Flight Following on cross-countries. They can only provide guidance up to the edge of the MOA if it's hot.
I have had cold MOA's go hot while I was enroute and FF will drop you like a hot potato when that happens, if you're in it at the time.
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Eh? Does the radar suddenly stop working when the MOA goes hot? Or do they just not want the liability of providing you FF anymore?
TODR
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06-12-2013, 04:21 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
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Doug, he told me that there are fighters out there, so be vigilant. Perhaps ATC Terry can chime in.
Recently, I was on an IFR flight plan on the way home from Beaufort, S.C. when he told me that I would be on my own in 5 minutes, when I enter the MOA, so I cancelled since the cloud cover was thinning anyway.
Their radar doesn't stop working, obviously, but perhaps it's just SOP to stop advisories when military airplanes are all over the place...BTW, I never saw any fighters.
Best,
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RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
EAA Flight Advisor/CFI/Tech Counselor
Louisville, Ga
It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
Patrick Kenny, EAA 275132
Dues gladly paid!
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06-12-2013, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SC & CA
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FAA SUA Link & MOA's Caution...
Below is a useful link and a video of a MOA near-miss...
http://sua.faa.gov/sua/siteFrame.app
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY
A controller's comments wrt the youtube link above...
"I work at Vance AFB. We protect the MOAs from IFR traffic, via altitude separation by having the civilian traffic at a specific alt. or by caping the pilot in the MOA at a certain alt. VFR traffic we could care less about we have alot else going on, we advise you that your entering a MOA and give you the working Alt's if you want to go in it your choice. We?re not going to provide any separation or even try."
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06-12-2013, 12:54 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Niceville, FL
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Flying Through a Hot MOA is Risky
Yes, flying VFR through a MOA is perfectly legal...but not smart. While in a military aircraft I've been advised of VFR traffic numerous times and had to stop training to see and avoid the traffic. When in the middle of a 8 - 10k ft vertical maneuver with your T-38 wingman in extended trail where your airspeed goes from 450 KIAS to 200KIAS throughout the maneuver, you can't stop on a dime. I've had several near misses with GA traffic in MOAs including twice with the same Mooney that blasted through the heart of the Columbus AFB MOAs on different days. As Forest Gump said, Stupid is what Stupid Does.
Fly Safe! Don't Fly through a HOT MOA without talking to the controlling agency and understanding the activity in the MOA. Sometimes the military aircraft is droning at a set altitude block which you can easily avoid. Other times we are using the complete airspace with rapid vertical changes in simulated combat. That's why the controlling agency cannot provide flight following and advisories because they cannot predict the military aircraft's flight path.
Big Sky theory works most of the time but why risk your life and others.
Cheers,
George
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06-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 745
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Is it Prohibited, restricted areas or MOA's that have artillery fire and or live missile shots?? Had a Marine Corps chopper accidentally get blasted out of the sky by by "friendly" artillery fire in Vietnam a long time ago. 
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06-12-2013, 10:44 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: MS
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MOA's don't have live exercises. Restricted areas do and Warning Areas do at times. I have done missile shoots and dropped bombs in all these areas with the exception of MOA's and Alert areas. Stay ever vigilant and get flight following around these areas (we also tend to be maneuvering on our way to these areas as well). MOA's can go hot at any time so while the predictive tool is great be warned that may change at any point (I have countless times gone to one MOA to not have the weather for the mission and then decided to activate a nearby one that did). If you do decide to go in, be sure your Mode C is working so we can at least have a heads up to interlopers and knock of what we're doing. MOA's are MARSA (Military Assumes Responsibility for Safe Separation) however Center or Approach monitors our area common UHF freq and will usually come up it and let us know we have VFR traffic in the area. Please stay predictable if you do this (meaning stay on a constant heading and altitude so we can avoid you). P.S. where's the beer icon?
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06-13-2013, 12:24 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,670
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Help
I can't seem to get the map to work properly. It will show me airports, etc, but not the MOA's or the SUA's.
When I click the box for MOA's, nothing happens. If I then click on the search logo to the right, I get error messages.
WhatmIdoinwrong? 
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