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Old 05-10-2013, 10:30 AM
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Default Third Class Medical

Has anybody heard any news about the FAA decision to allow a persons to use their state driver license in for a third class medical. I have to renew my medical soon and was in hopes there would be some action by the FAA soon.

I know the FAA marches to their own drum beet, but we can hope.
Any thing new?

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Old 05-10-2013, 10:33 AM
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I wouldn't be counting on it anytime soon....

http://www.aopa.org/sunnfun/2013/130...medical-e.html
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:34 AM
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FAA seems to be dragging their feet on it, AOPA has had updates on it recently and they say it is going to be a while................

Here is some more info.

http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2...c0ba76db-17962
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:20 PM
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dream on......... time to do the computer medical.........
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:22 PM
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Default This thing was proposed as an exemption for AOPA and EAA members only

That is just never going to fly.

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Old 05-10-2013, 03:27 PM
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Bob,
May be a little confusion here. AOPA and EAA were presenting this exemption to the FAA but it was not presented to be an exemption just for members of those organizations. They were presenting the exemption to the FAA as an exemption for anyone who flew an aircraft that met the specific performance requirements they spelled out in the exemption request.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:47 PM
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Bob,
May be a little confusion here. AOPA and EAA were presenting this exemption to the FAA but it was not presented to be an exemption just for members of those organizations. They were presenting the exemption to the FAA as an exemption for anyone who flew an aircraft that met the specific performance requirements they spelled out in the exemption request.
When I read the proposal and commented during the review period it was very clear to me (maybe a misinterpretation on my part for sure) that it was asking for an exemption from the 3rd class medical examination for members of those two organizations with the stated position that they (AOPA & EAA) had no opposition to expanding the exemption to the general pilot population (which they do not represent) by the FAA.

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Old 05-10-2013, 04:09 PM
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Bob is right that the petition the AOPA and the EAA made applied to its members. You can read the request here:

http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/120319a...-exemption.pdf

Having said that, I'm pretty sure the reason it's worded as it is in the petition is because these organizations needed legal standing to make the request. Their standing existed because of the membership they represent. I don't think there was any intention on the part of the AOPA or EAA that the FAA's rule making would be limited to those two groups (note: I don't represent either organization nor do I have inside information).

I can see where this could be really confusing.

It seems to me its time to put a coordinated grass roots effort together to write to congress to raise the importance of this issue in the eyes of the FAA. I don't think it would take a lot to make this happen, particularly in todays budget environment.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:06 PM
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Having said that, I'm pretty sure the reason it's worded as it is in the petition is because these organizations needed legal standing to make the request.
I agree. If they were to petition on behalf of non-members they could be considered a PAC and change their tax status. I believe they could have done this thru their PAC however there are other issues which come to play there.
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When I read the proposal and commented during the review period it was very clear to me (maybe a misinterpretation on my part for sure) that it was asking for an exemption from the 3rd class magical examination for members of those two organizations with the stated position that they (AOPA & EAA) had no opposition to expanding the exemption to the general pilot population (which they do not represent) by the FAA.

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The way it was explained by both EAA and AOPA at last years forum at OSH is that a rule exempton has to be asked for and issued to some sort of group. Typical exemption go to a given airlines that show their company process/procedures provide equal or more safety then the FAA rules so that airlines gets an exemption for them to not follow a specific FAA rule. EAA/AOPA said that the people they represent was the group they picked for the exemption submission but would work a way to include all pilots that take the online training coarse even if not a member of their organization. To fly legally with the drivers license medical Would require some sort of certificate of completion and statement of inclusion in exemption group.
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