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Old 04-22-2013, 02:47 PM
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Default Time saving ideas for an RV-10 build?

My emp kit arrived and I am half way through the inventory. Before I start building, I would like to get your opinion on time savers you may have found.

A time saver is where I can save some significant time for (maybe) some additional $$ upfront. Alternatively, something that should be done now (ie. battery mounts) as opposed to possibly being more time consuming later.

Both my wife and me have day jobs so neither of us can commit full time to the project, yet we would like to finish the project in a finite time

So far, the time savers I can identify are
- quickbuild wings/fuse (huge time saver I think)
- Cee Bailey's window kit

Are there any other time savers I should be aware of?
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:21 PM
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RVBITS gear fairings (available through Cleaveland)
Aerosport Products interiors - too many products to mention
Have SteinAir or Aerotronics do your panel

Like most of these, they have significant cost impacts..
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Old 04-22-2013, 04:30 PM
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Built to the plans, no modifications.
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Old 04-22-2013, 04:58 PM
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I think the biggest time saver for me is to slow down enough to not make egregious errors - and save the time you would have spent fixing/redoing/waiting for parts. My mentality has gone through a subtle shift from trying to keep the pace up to trying to do everything just once. Makes a difference, although I am by no means error free.

The other time waster (besides spending time reading the forums instead of working...) is stressing about 'big' things like pro seal, canopies, or whatever it is that you might dread for no good reason other than it's an unknown, at least to you.

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Old 04-22-2013, 05:00 PM
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One regret I have (which was partially forced by very cramped building space) was to not have put all small parts (rivets, bolts, nuts) into well ordered small drawers with an indexed finding system, at the same time I did inventory.

I must have spent 100's of hours later looking for the proper paper bag, and then looking thru that bag for the correct part.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:05 PM
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Default Keep it fresh

Work on it a little bit every single day so you don't have to waste time going back and trying to figure out what it was that you did last week.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:13 PM
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Never leave for the night with a task half done. e.g., nut and bolt attached snug but "I'll torque it tomorrow". If you must leave something undone - and it will happen - mark it plainly (I used a roll of red tape) so you won't forget to come back to it.

Same thing for the plans. Check off what has been done, and mark in large red marker anything which has been left to later.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:31 PM
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Default Build Quality

I would recommend to decide right now what is considered acceptable quality of finish work.

There is nothing wrong with accepting less than Oshkosh overall show award quality as long as it is safe.

There is nothing wrong with going for the Oshkosh Gold cup either.

Determine what is acceptable to you and then when (not if ) something happens that is below your set threshold of quality, don't blink and eye, just redo it. There have been many days wasted by builders agonizing over whether or not to redo a mistake or just accept it as it is when the redo would have taken less time than the agony.

Use pre-wired avionics if you are not electronic savvy.

Work on it every day. Even if it means just sweeping the shop.
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:21 PM
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Built to the plans, no modifications.
ANY mod you do takes lots more time than you expect.
There are tons of things you can buy to speed your build but they will add significant cost to the build.

Not many things in the tail that will speed the build. Most come further along. Only item I can think of that would help is mounting adel clamps or other attachment points before putting the top skin on.

Also to prime or not.... Priming and priming prep will take between 20-30% additional time.

While working on the tail read people's blogs and you will see most of the common aftermarket mods.

One other thing that can save some time, just peal the blue plastic off, don't cut rivet lines. First step to painting is to scotch bright the skin, don't worry about some light surface scratches.
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:30 PM
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Default +1 for organization...

Just like Bob said, organize. It seems counterintuitive to spend all that time to adequately organize all your inventory into a compartmental system like this http://www.mykitlog.com/users/displa...=128282&row=12. A lot of builders say "those little brown bags are already organized." Trust me, organizing your little parts will save loads of time! I organized the compartments into boxes of "like" hardware (i.e. all screws together, all rivet sizes together, all bushings, nutplates, etc.). Searching the inventory list for the proper brown baggy stinks..
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