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04-12-2013, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DAGO
You brought up a very interesting and relevant topic and the military loses sleep over this issue. Any kind of EMF warfare or even sun spots can seriously degrade Command and Control and render cockpit communications, navigation, and cockpit SA sensors inop. Our war fighting abilities are greatly degraded operating under those conditions.
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While some may lose sleep over this on a battlefield scale, I personally know just how big "space" is, and am not too terribly worried on a global basis. It's not as easy as you might think.
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04-12-2013, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DakotaHawk
No. If you're using GPS during a VFR mission, there's only one reason to have a VOR - to listen to AM radio as the miles pass by... 
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We don't have one. There is one reason that one can be useful. handy if you need to use a RCO.
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04-12-2013, 10:38 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Just my 2 cents worth, but in the Air Force, we still train our students exclusively flying "old school" methods.. One never knows when the proverbial switch will be turned off, and when it does, it pays to know a little bit about the "old school" ways.... That being said, I fly primarily GPS because of the accuracy and absence of VOR finickiness ... but should it fail, I can always back myself up using a VOR/TACAN. A little pilotage goes a long way! Bet the dudes in the LORAN days thought that their system would NEVER be turned off
Luis
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04-12-2013, 11:34 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NorCal
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Originally Posted by YellowJacket RV9
... OR getting caught in the soup, in which case I like the idea of having a NAV radio for use with an ILS.
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http://xavion.com/
Even if you have to buy a tablet and Xavion, it's less than $1000 with far more utility...and for a VFR pilot not trained to fly an ILS, far more likely to bring a happy ending.
If you must have some kind of VOR capability, get a handheld NavComm radio.
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04-13-2013, 07:30 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
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Originally Posted by longranger
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And my last reply just happened to mention those two CAP guys. This accident is often used as a reason to dismiss the capability of GPS, keeping VORs and perhaps rebuild LORAN. A Civil Air Patrol member, as well as a RV builder and memeber of this forum, gave me some good insight, and information about new regulations that were set into place, after this accident occured.
Never the less, I've been to many fatal and non fatal accident sites over the last decade by air. The "modern" color moving map GPS has never failed to identify a potential terrain problem far in advance. And I've got a long, long list of CFIT accidents, in which it would have been very appreciated.
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04-13-2013, 07:34 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b1driver
Bet the dudes in the LORAN days thought that their system would NEVER be turned off 
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But................it was replaced with something much better... 
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