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04-11-2013, 11:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Originally Posted by DonFromTX
The 8 ft deal is Vans reported reason for the square tips. However, the current width requirements are more. I hauled a 102 inch wide trailer in every state behind my Kenworth that was 102 also, and that did NOT include lights and stuff hanging over. Most all highway trucks are 102 wide now.
Getting it INSIDE a 102 wide trailer however might have been the real reason for the 96 inch limit.
I will just remove them if necessary.
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Actually quite a few states have a width limit of 8' HERE'S ONE
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04-12-2013, 01:31 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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As nobody has reported tails falling off or any other inconvenient side effects so far, I ordered a set as well. They will make me slightly illegal on our roads (2.5m or 98.4" limit), but I can live with that. However, I'm curious to know whether Vans made any allowance in their original design for the fact that some wayward builders might decide to hang some decorations on the square ends of their stabilators, even if the factory never intended to produce them?
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04-12-2013, 08:06 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: La Feria Texas
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I should have indicated, legal on ALL of the interstate system of roads in the USA, and only designated routes in some states to and from the Interstate, usually to allow deliveries and services.
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Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002
Actually quite a few states have a width limit of 8' HERE'S ONE
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04-12-2013, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Originally Posted by rgmwa
As nobody has reported tails falling off or any other inconvenient side effects so far, I ordered a set as well. They will make me slightly illegal on our roads (2.5m or 98.4" limit), but I can live with that. However, I'm curious to know whether Vans made any allowance in their original design for the fact that some wayward builders might decide to hang some decorations on the square ends of their stabilators, even if the factory never intended to produce them?
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The airplanes are designed to try and maximize the performance Vs cost factor.
Designing for what might be done by builders is usually not factored in (and in some ways can work against the performance Vs cost factor).
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04-12-2013, 11:38 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Pentwater, MI
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In your link to the VA regulations, if you scroll down to "Trailer Width", you will find that it is 8'6"
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04-12-2013, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Originally Posted by Limey
In your link to the VA regulations, if you scroll down to "Trailer Width", you will find that it is 8'6"
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Hmmm, DOn't know why the difference. regardless, there are states that have an 8 ft limit.
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04-12-2013, 01:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: La Feria Texas
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STATES have no jurisdiction over the Federal Highway system, that has a system wide, (anywhere on an interstate highway) width of 102 inches.
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Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002
Hmmm, DOn't know why the difference. regardless, there are states that have an 8 ft limit.
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04-12-2013, 03:07 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DonFromTX
STATES have no jurisdiction over the Federal Highway system, that has a system wide, (anywhere on an interstate highway) width of 102 inches.
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Don,
The context of the RV-12 design regarding width wasn't for you to be able to get it cross country via trailer on only the interstate highway system. It was to be able to travel from point to point from anywhere to anywhere.
Very few people have a driveway that accesses onto an interstate highway...
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04-12-2013, 06:51 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002
The airplanes are designed to try and maximize the performance Vs cost factor.
Designing for what might be done by builders is usually not factored in (and in some ways can work against the performance Vs cost factor).
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Thanks Scott, and that makes perfect sense of course, although in this case I was less concerned with reducing the performance Vs cost factor than with reducing the safety Vs appearance factor. Hopefully there is a enough margin in the stabilator design to accommodate this particular `improvement' without unduly compromising flight safety. I guess all we can say for now is so far, so good.
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04-17-2013, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, TX (DFW)
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They are GREAT!
I may go to jail for being a few inches over trailer width, whenever I head to the airport (joke).........but,
These tips are nice! Installed the first one last night. First time I've been in the shop in almost 3-months! (pay no attention to my high-tech gust lock on the rudder  )

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Rebuilding a true barn find J-3 Cub
Last edited by txaviator : 04-17-2013 at 03:33 PM.
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