VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Model Specific > RV-9/9A
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-06-2013, 03:40 PM
polishpilot's Avatar
polishpilot polishpilot is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 156
Default Precision Air mixture arm hits cowl scoop

I have an IO-320 with a Precision Airmotive fuel servo. I have the Van's 360 bottom cowl. The offset mixture lever interferes with the side of the cowl scoop. I have the kit to make a cut out in the FAB for lever movement and I can also make a new mounting plate that is offset to move the entire FAB to the right. This would not solve the lever situation, however. Should I buy a new "straight" lever to replace the offset? ($165) I have read that I might have to still fabricate a "bulge in the side of the scoop for engine movement. This is an updraft servo. I am open to any suggestions from those who may have had the same issue.
Thanks, Jim
__________________
N96LV
RV-9A started April 2011
Flying May 2014
Sold Oct 2014-Not one of my best decisions

2020 Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-06-2013, 03:52 PM
roee roee is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: San Diego, CA, U.S.A.
Posts: 770
Default

I have the reverse mixture option and a straight mixture lever and I still have the same issue. The shaft and nut at the base of the mixture lever (which is there irrespective of lever shape or clocking) still comes too close to the cowling to accommodate the expected engine movement. The only solution I see is to, as you said, add a "bulge" to the cowling there to provide more clearance.
__________________
Roee Kalinsky
San Diego, CA, U.S.A.
RV-7A under construction
www.kalinskyconsulting.com/rvproj/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-06-2013, 05:55 PM
C-GRVT C-GRVT is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 305
Default

It is useful in creating a record of experience to specify whether the servo is reverse mixture (arm pointing up) (and whether vertical induction). I have an O-360 RV-6A with reverse mixture and an offset arm, vertical induction, and that arm interferes with the cowl.
The cowl cutout that Van's offers appears designed to create clearance for a downward pointing mixture arm.
Others have reported success with a reverse mixture arm that is shorter and with less offset - there is another thread that discusses this at length. It appears to me that a straight arm should work.
Precision has offered to exchange the arm for me for another for no charge.
On a different but related matter I mentioned in a post a few days ago to give people something else to think about - Van's says there should be no gasket between the servo and the FAB top plate. Many photos I see have a gasket.
Bill Brooks
Ottawa, Canada.
RV-6A finishing
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-06-2013, 06:38 PM
thinkn9a thinkn9a is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 282
Default Talk with Precision and see what they can offer

As Bill said,.. they have in the past offered to exchange lever arms.

Gotta send it in, before you get one back. BoyHowdy, at those prices it must be an airplane part.

As I recollect, I ended up exchanging mine. (still have offset/cutout of the FAB).
__________________
Wallace & Marietta Goodloe
9A -QB
N211LV
Phase 2 has started!
Thanksgiving time, is dues time for us
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-06-2013, 06:45 PM
AF_Alan's Avatar
AF_Alan AF_Alan is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 122
Default Contact Precision

I contacted Precision and they swapped out the offset mixture lever which came with my new engine for a straight lever.

With the straight lever, a new airbox mount plate I fab'd to shift airbox toward center, airbox cutout from Van's (I have regular mixture rotation) and careful bolt/nut selection, I ended up with nearly 3/4" clearance between bottom cowl and mixture bolt.

Mixture is even further away during engine start and stop (retracted up) but I'll wait until flying to see for sure if that is enough or I need to add the fiberglass bump.
__________________
Alan
RV-9A N984AW
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-06-2013, 07:36 PM
polishpilot's Avatar
polishpilot polishpilot is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 156
Default

Thank you Roee, Bill, Wallace and Allen! I think I will send my mixture arm in for a replacement after I call Precision. I will use the cutout piece from Van's to clear the arm, offset the FAB with a new mounting plate and see what I have at that point. It sounds to me like it should work. I appreciate your input - and this Forum. Have a great day.

Alan, Happy you are ready for your DAR inspection. Rubbing it in a little, eh?

Jim Sygitowicz
__________________
N96LV
RV-9A started April 2011
Flying May 2014
Sold Oct 2014-Not one of my best decisions

2020 Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-09-2013, 07:32 AM
polishpilot's Avatar
polishpilot polishpilot is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 156
Default

Picked up my new straight mixture arm yesterday. Great people to deal with at Precision Airmotive.
__________________
N96LV
RV-9A started April 2011
Flying May 2014
Sold Oct 2014-Not one of my best decisions

2020 Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-10-2013, 05:29 PM
JSOliveira JSOliveira is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
Posts: 77
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AF_Alan View Post
I contacted Precision and they swapped out the offset mixture lever which came with my new engine for a straight lever.

With the straight lever, a new airbox mount plate I fab'd to shift airbox toward center, airbox cutout from Van's (I have regular mixture rotation) and careful bolt/nut selection, I ended up with nearly 3/4" clearance between bottom cowl and mixture bolt.

Mixture is even further away during engine start and stop (retracted up) but I'll wait until flying to see for sure if that is enough or I need to add the fiberglass bump.
I did the same thing, only with a slightly offset arm, not straight. That way you don't have to move the FAB quite so far. I had plenty of clearance, but it was the only problem I had with anything on the aircraft not fitting right or working right when installed. Instructions could be clearer on this on. All worked out well in the end.
__________________
John O
RV9a N709RV
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-10-2013, 07:40 PM
MS19087's Avatar
MS19087 MS19087 is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: West Chester, PA
Posts: 681
Default Same setup here

I swapped the arm, modified the FAB and also put a little blister in my cowl. Look at my build site to see the cowl mod. Www.n91rv.com
__________________
Mark
RV-9A; Sold
RV-14A; Building
2020 =VAF= donor
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:32 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.