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03-27-2013, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Withcott, QLD, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 9
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for your replies. Yes I have looked at the Tip tanks and they may be the option I go for if it turns out much easier. I certainly would love to try the RV 14 but am concerned that the costs will end up blowing out due to the cost of the 390. From what I have read it can more than 10k more.
Does this sound right?
I have seen on a builders log (Bretts RV 9a) that you can buy kit engines to save on costs. I have a good friend who is an extremely talented fitter who may be interested in assembling the engine for me if i go that way. Has anyone else had experience with kit engines?
Once again, thankyou for all your replies and your warm welcome.
Look for to corresponding alot more as I get into the details and my kit arrives! 
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03-27-2013, 12:17 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Yardley, PA
Posts: 1,334
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Hummmmm
37 gallons at a conservative burn of 10 gallons/hour = 3 hrs in the air with reserves. About as long as I want to spend in the air before I want to stretch my legs... but that's just me. 
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03-27-2013, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,145
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Originally Posted by Av8torTom
37 gallons at a conservative burn of 10 gallons/hour = 3 hrs in the air with reserves. About as long as I want to spend in the air before I want to stretch my legs... but that's just me. 
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In general, for passenger comfort, you would be correct. However, some of us may want to make long over-water flights where the fuel would be needed. I know that was my reason for building the extended tanks in my 9A.
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03-27-2013, 12:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,646
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Av8torTom
37 gallons at a conservative burn of 10 gallons/hour = 3 hrs in the air with reserves. About as long as I want to spend in the air before I want to stretch my legs... but that's just me. 
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And that's if you're willing to burn 10gph. If you look through the threads you'll see that many -9 pilots tend to pull the power back for cross country cruise. 60-65% power can be done at about 6-7 gph and still yield 140-150 kts TAS. That means standard tanks really give you about 5-6 hours of economy cruise.
Thus, I'm in the camp that extra tanks are really not necessary for me but, if they were, I would definitely go the route of adding after-market tanks rather than structurally changing the wings, especially given all the complexity, time, expense, and engineering questions that go along with doing that.
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03-27-2013, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Geneva, AL
Posts: 491
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Endurance
I'm a little like Av8tor. I'm 57 and the fuel tanks in my 9A are a LOT bigger than my bladder!!!!  Plus, as comfy as Abby's seats are, I still want to stretch my legs at least by the 3 hour mark!!!!
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03-27-2013, 12:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Withcott, QLD, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 9
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Hi all,
Thanks for all your replies. Im not trying to question anyones bladder. Just wanted the option of not having to fill up everytime I land as quality fuel might be an issue in some areas here. I was hoping to get specific details of how people have increased fuel capacity. Im leaning toward tip tanks at the moment but will make that decision when my plans arrive and I assess the wing design. I just thought anyone who had increased the number of bays used in the tanks might be able to give me details.
Thanks 
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03-27-2013, 01:15 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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PJ, the variations of extra tankage are plenty, from 50% more fuel to full length leading edges.
A lot of the guys who build Super -8's (IO-540's) and Super -7's, buy a single tank skin from Van's, cut it in half and add one section to each outboard end, adding 50% more, or thereabouts, because of the higher fuel consumption of the big engines.
Read about Jon Johannson on Van's front page. He's in Oz and had 18 hours aboard his -4 for his two round-the-world flights, including 50 gallons in the back seat!
Best,
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03-27-2013, 01:48 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BC
Posts: 1,674
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Originally Posted by PaulR
I'm a little like Av8tor. I'm 57 and the fuel tanks in my 9A are a LOT bigger than my bladder!!!!  Plus, as comfy as Abby's seats are, I still want to stretch my legs at least by the 3 hour mark!!!!
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3 hours outbound and 3 hours back equals 6 hours plus reserves. I like to go places that doesn't have fuel (and people).
Bevan
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03-27-2013, 11:09 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: KTCY
Posts: 643
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Av8torTom
37 gallons at a conservative burn of 10 gallons/hour = 3 hrs in the air with reserves.
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At an economy cruise near 6gal/hr is 6 hours...
The best way to get a bit more gas if you are building the tanks is to extend the tanks out to the next rib...
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