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Old 03-05-2013, 10:13 AM
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I have been loving my GRT horizon HX for the last 4 years thinking it could not get better, HXr has proven me wrong. Thanks for the pix and information.
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:47 PM
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I have been loving my GRT horizon HX for the last 4 years thinking it could not get better, HXr has proven me wrong. Thanks for the pix and information.
I know what you mean. I had the 8.4 Sport and was a happy camper. Now after a few months behind the HXr I can't believe all the information that's available.

We've all said it before. The EFIS systems that we have now in our Experimental's are so far superior to what I had in the big Boeings that it still amazes me every time I fly.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:01 AM
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Not to hijack the thread, (NOOB question) but could you discuss the integration to the non GRT electronics in the panel. I would love to start with a day/night VFR set up then upgrade, as funding permits, to full IFR. What other electronics are needed?.Xponder, nav/com, etc.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:03 PM
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Not to hijack the thread, (NOOB question) but could you discuss the integration to the non GRT electronics in the panel. I would love to start with a day/night VFR set up then upgrade, as funding permits, to full IFR. What other electronics are needed?.Xponder, nav/com, etc.
Great question.

The GRT EFIS systems, as well as all the others except Garmin are basically stand alone companies. Garmin is the only one that actually offers EFIS's, radios, certified GPS's, etc.

That being said however, GRT and all the other EFIS systems will play with all of the radio/transponder/GPS's very well.

For a basic VFR panel, you'll probably start out with a COM radio, an intercom or probably a COM panel (for future upgrade), a portable GPS and a transponder. The portable aviation GPS's available today will almost all play with the GRT very well. Down the road towards IFR, you'll want to get a certified GPS, by then most likely WAAS.

Transponders today are coming down in price. I replaced a broken King KT76A with a new Trig TT31 because it's ADSB compliant with a certified GPS, but is completely usable as a mode S transponder today if you input a certified WAAS GPS position into it. Trig and Garmin both make remote transponders, but they require remote mounting and a controller mounted in the panel, or thru an EFIS.

For COM, there are several basic radios but you may want to consider one that can at least MONITOR the standby frequency if your are going with a single COM now. The SL30 and SL40 Garmins do this as well as others. (Garmin's new COM/NAV's were recently announced to replace the 30/40). With the IFR panel, you'll look at certified WAAS GPS's with COM/NAV built in. Pricey but you get what you pay for. (the 430/530 and the GTN 650/750 come in here.)

Then when you get ready to upgrade you already have stuff that won't have to be replaced, just added to.

As for the EFIS, none of the above really affects it. You can add autopilots that are included in the EFIS, like GRT and Dynon, or, add stand alone autopilots like TruTrak. All of the EFIS systems work with different autopilots though, so just plan ahead.

This is a process that really needs to be thought out before you start building your panel. As always, things are changing so fast in the electronics world what you decide today will be changed by next week, but you can still plan upgrades in and save yourself a lot of headaches.

Good luck with your project.
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Here are a couple photo's of the TRAFFIC function of the HXr screens.

Once again, I'm using my phone whenever I get a unique screen so the photo's aren't the best quality.

The first is a TRAFFIC warning when the traffic is within my preset +/- 2500 feet and within 2 miles. This sets off the TRAFFIC inset on the left. Notice how the traiffic is displayed on the map in the right inset, also on the PFD show relative position and direction of flight, and in the TRAFFIC ALERT inset. This is at a distance of approximately 2 miles. He's 1700 feet below me and descending.



The photo below is now after he's closed to within about a 3/4 mile and is going to pass below me. Note how the traffic symbol in the center red circle is bigger indicating he's getting close. This really gets your attention and really shows you where to scan for traffic. The only caveat is you have to remember where the airplane is REALLY pointing. With the winds note how the Flight Path Vector indicator is off to the right indicating I'm crabbing to the right so you have to adjust where you look because the traffic indication is relative position.

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Old 03-19-2013, 05:54 PM
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All I can say is WOW!
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:15 AM
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Jerry: Awesome capabilities.
Next question. Will it provide the engine monitoring or is another instrument required?
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:29 AM
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Jerry: Awesome capabilities.
Next question. Will it provide the engine monitoring or is another instrument required?
Go back to the first page, and take a look at the pretty pictures again.

Hint............

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Old 03-20-2013, 11:34 AM
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Sorry. I did see that, but was not sure if it was part of the EFIS capability of if it was controlling or pulling the data from another source. I'm new to glass. Most of my time has been behind steam gauges without a GPS. This is a whole new world.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:44 AM
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Sorry. I did see that, but was not sure if it was part of the EFIS capability of if it was controlling or pulling the data from another source. I'm new to glass. Most of my time has been behind steam gauges without a GPS. This is a whole new world.
Larry, It will display all the engine information IF you have an Engine Monitoring System. I use the GRT EIS 4000 (Engine Information System). It can be panel mounted or remote mounted and programmed where you really never have to access it in normal ops. It's provides all the usual info RPM, MP, CHT's EGT's pressures, etc to the EFIS thru one wire. Of course, there are lots of wires from the engine to the EIS. Hope this explains.
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