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Old 03-12-2013, 09:28 AM
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i don't agree with the theory of either of these, here's a logical argument to consider


are you renting a cheeseburger when you buy it? you are consuming it, then you can no longer use it.....

these are commodities
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:10 AM
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I got an iFly 720 which has fantastic display fully readable even in direct sunlight and no glare unlike ipads, a much easier to handle size in the airplane, an annual subscription of around $100 I think including vfr, ifr, and even geo synched approach plates, will accept ADSB weather (traffic I'm not sure) and the list goes on.
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:39 PM
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I'm with Tony. $20 a couple years ago for SkyChartsPro and the iPad has essentially paid for itself in paper chart savings. As has been mentioned in other threads, the iFly isn't quite as good when you are trying to check email, take pictures, Skype, surf the web, look at PDFs or watch a movie.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:09 PM
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You also rent paper charts
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:38 PM
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I use my old paper charts to wrap Christmas and birthday gifts. People love looking at the paper !
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:42 PM
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And if you're a student and still use paper textbooks, they make excellent book covers. For that matter, they make excellent book covers even if you're not a student but still need a book cover.

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P.S. Guess I'm dating myself - we used paper textbooks when I was in college, and that's what I used to cover them with.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:45 PM
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You also rent paper charts
I like to own paper charts and use them for navigation


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Old 03-13-2013, 02:22 AM
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I dont mind subscription based maps. i dont want to buy every movie i watch and having a gps nav over a sectional with clearly defined airspace and com frequencies at the touch of a button is pretty awesome. Not to mention a backup AI, weather, calcualted upper air winds and fuel usage. Sure, i can look this up online and spend time flight planning or i can let the ipad do it and print out hard copies for backup. My wingX just expired but still works with the cached sectional. Although in my opinion it has he best 'overall' functionality for in flight nav, flight planning and comparability, it still has the disclaimer that its NOT meant to be used for navigation where as garmin and FF own up to it. That's a real cop out if you ask me.. Like buying a car, but not meant to be used for comuting on highways or carrying people. Air nav pro, also fantastic VFR simplicity, has that disclaimer, but as mentioned previously it doesn't expire at least. FF bought i1000 FS, will interesting to see if they step it up.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:00 AM
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Just an update confirming Foreflight indeed ceases to function after expiration ...

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:20 AM
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Just an update confirming Foreflight indeed ceases to function after expiration ...
Again, as mentioned above, it's not the charts you're renting or subscribing to. It's the app itself you're paying an annual subscription for.

Charts expire every 28 or 56 days. If your subscription is good for another six months, for example, and your chart expires, the chart will still be there (with a red notice reminding you it might be old data) but will still be there for you to use until your ForeFlight subscription expires.

If you pay $75 or $150 per year to use the ForeFlight app and your year runs out, the app stops working. If you subscribe to cable TV and pre-pay for a year, do you expect the cable company to keep providing programming for you if you don't renew?

You're not "only renting your charts", you're subscribing to a service which happens to include charts.

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