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02-27-2013, 03:30 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: St-Jerome,Quebec,Canada
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RV-4 Price
Someone is gonna have to explain to me why an airplane that cost over $60K + to build will now have a resale value in the low 40K???
I can see a trend on this forum toward putting a value on the -4 at totally ridiculous level...Going by the flavor of the day an RV-3 is now worth more than a -4...
Pleassssse , be serious would you guys..
Nobody is gonna get my -4 for $30K and it is a 1986 model...
Just my $0.02
Bruno
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02-27-2013, 04:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: England
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How many experimental airplanes sell for what they cost to build? I think the answer is not very many - and the RV series are some of the few that do, but that's not the reason most people build ... If you need to sell the question is what's it worth to a buyer?
This same discussion (value of an RV-4) was had a month or so ago. The seller wanted $50K firm - don't remember the exact specs - but that seemed at the top end of the range for the airplane. The answer is really how much do you want that airplane? How much can you afford and can you wait a month or 3? Seems that most RV-4s sell in the $30 to $50K range - sounds like Shipchief's son is on to a real winner. I agree with RV Wannabe, an RV-4 on the market for >$50 is likely to hang around for several months. If a paint job is $5K, it doesn't seem reasonable to knock that off a $40K airplane. If this airplane is straight, has long gear, is well finished and is tidy under the cowling I would have thought mid to high 40s?
Logic says it should be worth more, but that seems to be what buyers are paying for RV-4s at the moment, going by posts here.
If you want to fly aerobatics the empty weight & cg position are key, as with that engine & prop the stick loads might be high. I know of a well equipped 4 with an O-320 and c/s prop that weighs just over 950lb. Anything over 1000lb might be too heavy?
Get a good pre-buy, and decide how much longer you want to wait!
Pete
Last edited by penguin : 02-27-2013 at 04:06 PM.
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02-28-2013, 01:07 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Seattle
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Bruno;
I can only say that you probably don't want to sell your RV-4.
However, there are RV-4s advertized recently in the $30K range, and final selling prices are usually lower than asking prices.
Right now, EAB aircraft prices are suffering the same as certified aircraft prices. The economy is down. Even the most price stable off all aircraft, the Cessna 172/182 have low prices. We hope this will turn around and the good life can return for everyone.
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EAA 668340, chapter 326 & IAC chapter 67
RV-8 N89SE first flight 12/26/2013
Yak55M, and the wife has an RV-4
There is nothing-absolute nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing around with Aeroplanes
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02-28-2013, 04:10 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Fayetteville, GA
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The problem with this thread is most of the focus in on the olded RV-4's. The age and condition of the airframe, engine and avionics will have a huge impact on the price. I can buy a Cessna 172 for $20,000 but people are still paying $200,000 + for a new one. Not everyone wants a tired aircraft. An RV-4 on my field recently sold for over $60k and it was over 10 years old.
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Fayetteville GA
RV-4 sold
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02-28-2013, 05:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: George West, TX
Posts: 567
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV-4
Someone is gonna have to explain to me why an airplane that cost over $60K + to build will now have a resale value in the low 40K???
I can see a trend on this forum toward putting a value on the -4 at totally ridiculous level...Going by the flavor of the day an RV-3 is now worth more than a -4...
Pleassssse , be serious would you guys..
Nobody is gonna get my -4 for $30K and it is a 1986 model...
Just my $0.02
Bruno
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Originally Posted by tturner
The problem with this thread is most of the focus in on the olded RV-4's. The age and condition of the airframe, engine and avionics will have a huge impact on the price. I can buy a Cessna 172 for $20,000 but people are still paying $200,000 + for a new one. Not everyone wants a tired aircraft. An RV-4 on my field recently sold for over $60k and it was over 10 years old.
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Unless one already has an engine, $45,000 is ABOUT the low number you are going to build a practical VFR -4 for. I'm well over $60,000.00 into mine. I'd take an axe to it before giving it away for $40,000. ...Yes I am that hardheaded 
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02-28-2013, 06:09 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: orwigsburg pa
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Originally Posted by RV Wannabe
Wow. That is well bought.
He must have great negotiating skills. I had been looking for a long while, and I never saw a 30k -4 that I would spend a phone call on.
Mark
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They are out there. I sold mine last year for 35000. 0320 with a brand new paint job and Catto 3 blade. 700 tteaf
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03-01-2013, 10:18 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Punta Gorda, Fl
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There was a thread very much like this one but i think it was in the general discussion area and was removed after two weeks of inactivity.
Some things as far as workmanship will vary with each aircraft and add to or take away from the value in general. Im wondering what other aspects may add or detract from the value such as mods.
How big of a hit should the value take on a -4 when there is firewall wrinkles or cracks that are nonstructural. How much value is added to a -4 built with the new style gussets, how much is added for one thats been retrofitted? is there a greater value to the ones that were built with the thicker tail skins, retrofitted skins? Those things should imho add some value. The thicker skins, one may argue, add weight and if properly built the thinner ones are better though.
Other mods will arguably add or subtract to the value depending on what the buyer is seeking. C/s or fixed. Short gear or long. Conical mount or dynafocal. Electric or manual flaps or trim. Filtered air box or ram air.
Even a glass dash may cause one guy to run and another to be willing to shell out for it.
Mods that imho may add to the value would be (aside from what was mentioned above) sam james cowl, plenumn and wheel pants, or vans pressure recovery pants. Tailwheel enhancements, upgraded seats and harnesses, a crack free and spotless canopy, footwells for pax, good pilot and pax heating and cool air flow, rv6 or hr tanks would add a lot as they have to be built in and not added on after and mounted further outboard like most extended range tanks.
There are a few sliders out there....
What about a fast back? How much is that worth?
And a fastback with a slider?
Im interested for insurance purposes since im finishing up a fb sliding canopy -4 right now...
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'89 RV-4, N2626C - purchased flying
Converted to Fastback - Sliding Canopy - Tall Gear
Dynon Skyview w/ acc. & VP-x Sport
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03-01-2013, 11:04 AM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,301
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Quote:
Originally Posted by southtarnation
There was a thread very much like this one but i think it was in the general discussion area and was removed after two weeks of inactivity.
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Off topic but maybe this will clear up some misunderstanding--
The only threads removed after two weeks are those in the Temp/Misc forum. Everything else, except classifieds, are in the forum archives forever.
Back to our regular programming. 
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03-01-2013, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 315
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Originally Posted by southtarnation
im finishing up a fb sliding canopy -4 right now...
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That sounds pretty awesome. Any pics?
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Scooby
Harrumph!!
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03-01-2013, 11:13 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: St-Jerome,Quebec,Canada
Posts: 1,125
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RV-4 's value
Deal Fair
''I'd take an axe to it before giving it away for $40,000. ...Yes I am that hardheaded ''
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Well it makes two of us, I'll burn it before .......Nah I couldn't do that, love it too much..
As some says...value varies a lot with the condition of the a/c..I've seen a -4 around here for sale for $50K and it was so beat up the owner would have had to pay me to buy it...It is still there..
Mine is costing me well over $80( I know I put too much into it but for me it is the best or nothing ) but it is IFR , 3 blade prop ,Glass etc...and is also an Oshkosh winner so it must be worth something to someone..
Also it is easier to strip it down than up if required..
IMHO
Bruno
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