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02-17-2013, 07:37 AM
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Experimental Anti Icing?
I ran across this product for anti icing. Interesting product to say the least. It would be fun to try it on airfoils and see how it performs. The leading edges of the prop, wing, and HS could use this product and maybe add a layer of protection for cold weather RV drivers.
http://www.spillcontainment.com/everdry
Can we use experimental anti icing products on RV's? 
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02-17-2013, 08:03 AM
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Interesting to say the least. However, I'll be nice and let someone else test it under real conditions. 
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02-17-2013, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Geico266
Can we use experimental anti icing products on RV's? 
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Im always surprised when folks ask if we can do something with our experimentals.
You can bolt a Briggs and Stratton Engine on, grab a boat oar paddle and bolt it on as a prop, pour Elmers glue on the wings to prevent anything from sticking to it, mount a kites to the tail, and knock your socks off. And of course you do not need an A&P sign off to do it.
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02-17-2013, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kahuna
Im always surprised when folks ask if we can do something with our experimentals.
You can bolt a Briggs and Stratton Engine on, grab a boat oar paddle and bolt it on as a prop, pour Elmers glue on the wings to prevent anything from sticking to it, mount a kites to the tail, and knock your socks off. And of course you do not need an A&P sign off to do it.
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This is a little different, no a lot different. I'm talking about flying into known icing conditions, deicing on the ground, ect. Are there FARS that govern this with experimentals?
With experiments we can't just fly any way or any where we want. 
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02-17-2013, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Auburntsts
Interesting to say the least. However, I'll be nice and let someone else test it under real conditions. 
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Easy, apply it to one wing.
Seriously, it is pretty easy to find icing conditions around here. Are there any regs that keep us from trying this?
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02-17-2013, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Geico266
Easy, apply it to one wing. 
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Yeah...  is right. Asymmetrical span load and lift distribution would not result in the fun meter being pegged hi. Testing of this nature is high risk. Please approach carefully.
Read 14 CFR 91.527. As usual your interpretation and those of the FAA lawyers will differ such that the advantage will reside with the government...
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02-17-2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RV8R999
Yeah...  is right. Asymmetrical span load and lift distribution would not result in the fun meter being pegged hi. Testing of this nature is high risk. Please approach carefully.
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How about 1/2 of each wing?
Certainly would work on the belly for oil. 
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02-17-2013, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Leesburg, va
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superhydrophobic
Just google superhydrophobic and deicing you will find research using these types of products for deicing.
I thought I read a study a while back for this getting approval for aircraft, but can't find it now.
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02-17-2013, 02:01 PM
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Anybody that wants to fly an RV into known icing certainly wants to reduce the gene pool.
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02-17-2013, 02:23 PM
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Test
Why not start by treating a test surface (2' painted squares of aluminum)and placing them outside (along with untreated control pieces) during conditions that will heavily frost an airframe and see what happens. If results are positive then repeat the test with cheep box fans blowing over the surfaces to simulate airflow.....and so on... conservative test approch. Russ
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