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01-15-2013, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Video on AVWEB
There's a video review on AvWeb.com. Sounds like a new SL-40/30 with a better intercom and screen. Looks like they'll obsolete the SL series for these shortly - if not already.
It's taller too. I prefer the SL-40 height.
Neil
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01-15-2013, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
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Originally Posted by SteinAir
I'm told about $25 for a one off single update (which would be my choice once per year or so) or about $99 for a year's subscription.
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So can the display ID/database function be turned off so users do not have a need for paid updates?
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Per previous posts, can this thing get its frequency information from another Garmin device which has already been updated?
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01-15-2013, 10:49 AM
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I am With Dan, on his first post! Really good quality functions and LOWER price is much more appealing to me.
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01-15-2013, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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as an affected SL30 owner sitting in europe this is a mixed bag of news...
as it stands, it looks like we'll have to replace each and every! 25khz radio in the field by 2018 due to a poor frequency allocation policy and GA without a powerful lobby. simply insane... don't even get me started...
garmin should have produced a slide-in/slide-out replacement for the SL-30/SL-40 with the exact same or few more functions. only then, installation, paperwork etc... costs could have been kept to a minimum.
they probably got bribed from all the avionics shops and installers ;-)
now, assuming one replaces the SL30 with the GNC255, we have to pay twice: extra features that few of us if any need and a complete rebuild of the radio stack, hence lots of paperwork & downtime of the aircraft. i'm already seeing myself handling the wiring behind the panel. completely unnecessary. and i hope garmin has learned to improve their documentation/install manuals.
let's see how this turns out...
rgds,
bernie
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01-15-2013, 12:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sydney, Aust.
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Truthfully I can't see the point of having a database in a Nav/Com. That means you'll need to tie it into a GPS of some sort for position info. I would hope the database/ident function can be disabled to avoid yet another database being updated. No point being able to access the nearest FSS or enroute frequency if you have to verify it is current.
As for a "built in intercom", wow...  my 10-year-old Xcom has that, and odds are it's every bit as good as the Garmin offering at a user level. Actually, it can also monitor the standby frequency as well. Sure the Garmin might be more "advanced", but what does that really mean to me as a pilot? I offer the answer to that is "not much".
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01-15-2013, 01:21 PM
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Location: Wilsonville, OR
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For those that asked about direct slide-in replacements; Garmin has a large dealer base which have avionics shops. They would make their dealers very unhappy if they created a new product that was just a slide-in replacement. Dealers want the install business. This opinion is focused more on the certificated aircraft market. Just my .02
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01-15-2013, 04:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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This is a good opertunity for other company's to manufacture direct replacement units.
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01-15-2013, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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I'm with everyone who said that they are sick and tired of paying for yet another database update. I want *one* database, that's shared between my GPS, COM, iPad, Android tablet, Skyview, and wristwatch. Is that too much to ask? :P
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01-15-2013, 05:37 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Dallas, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowflake
I'm with everyone who said that they are sick and tired of paying for yet another database update. I want *one* database, that's shared between my GPS, COM, iPad, Android tablet, Skyview, and wristwatch. Is that too much to ask? :P
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You left out home PC. Add that and i'm with you!!
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01-15-2013, 05:44 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,473
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
This is a good opertunity for other company's to manufacture direct replacement units.
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Icom has had such a unit for over a decade now (sorta)...and it's not been an extremely popular retrofit, so at the moment it's unlikely someone could make a sound business case or an attractive ROI for such an endeavor (I can count on my stumpy propeller modified hand the number of folks we've sold that slide in replacement to over the past decade). Avionics lifecycles in the certified world have matured to the point where "if it ain't broke don't fix it" (therefore no huge demand to simply replace a working radio), and when everything is finally too old or too broke to keep using, folks typically will update the entire stack with the like branded equipment...with all new or quasi new equipment - and when a replacement unit might be the sole avionics unit offering from a specific company, it's usually not an attraction during a complete retrofit or a new install.
For us in the experimental world, I also see little demand for such a unit at this specific time frame. Most folks will be using these new radios in a new install, so no issue there, and with retrofits - again it's not usually a problem (because folks are usually doing a full up retrofit). Not arguing good/bad or one over the other, just the facts as they are from my experience. For the folks in the EU I get the point entirely (like Bernie)...don't have much to add there other than at least the new radio is legal! Of course all of the above may change, but that's how it is today at least.
And LORD KNOWS I agree with ya'll on databases and software. Between computers (accounting software, cad software, email clients, operating systems, etc..), phones, iPads, avionics, test equipment, tooling, and other stuff....any one of of my toys and tools are out of date at any given time when it comes to updates!
Cheers,
Stein
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