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01-01-2013, 02:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Group "B" ECI Cylinders
I have these and am ready to contact ECI for replacements..... What should I expect from them as far as total cash difference?
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01-01-2013, 03:20 PM
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I did mine 2 years ago. My cost was $485 for all 4 cylinders, I had about 250 hours on the cylinders and the cost was pro-rated against normal cylinder life. If I remember correctly, I also paid shipping to return my old cylinder.
Part of the saving was from a labor allowance that was included in the calculation to determine my final cost.
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01-01-2013, 04:41 PM
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I did mine a couple years ago. I sent ECI an email and got a response that group B customers were not eligible for any discounts. I stewed on that for a week, then called and spoke with Tara Molyneux. She said I would receive a discount called "Warranty-SB08-1 Parallel Cyl" Retail price for 4 cylinders was $4860. The reduced warranty price was $2,888. This was more than others on VAF were charged, including a guy two hangars down from me that paid about $500 for all four just a few months earlier. Who knows what kind of discount they are now offering. Good luck.
Chuck
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01-01-2013, 07:02 PM
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Don't bank on much this late in the game... 
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01-01-2013, 09:10 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Group B Cylinder replacement
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Originally Posted by Rick_A
I did mine 2 years ago. My cost was $485 for all 4 cylinders, I had about 250 hours on the cylinders and the cost was pro-rated against normal cylinder life. If I remember correctly, I also paid shipping to return my old cylinder.
Part of the saving was from a labor allowance that was included in the calculation to determine my final cost.
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I did mine in March 2012 when I bought the airplane and my experience is similar to Rick's. I think my costs were about the same and got the labor allowance computation as part of the reimbursement
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01-02-2013, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rochester, MN
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No joy here
I have called them 3 times in the last couple of years and have pretty much been blown off. I have never been given the feeling that they care, want to help, or are interested in standing behind their product. I would love to hear if there is a different approach that might serve me better. Otherwise I am about to look at other cylinders.
Any ideas welcome here as well.......thx
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01-02-2013, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigM
I have called them 3 times in the last couple of years and have pretty much been blown off. I have never been given the feeling that they care, want to help, or are interested in standing behind their product. I would love to hear if there is a different approach that might serve me better. Otherwise I am about to look at other cylinders.
Any ideas welcome here as well.......thx
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I had the same experiene when I talked with them about re-honing and re-ringing my (1500 hour) group A cylinders last year - no help at all on the phone. based on that, wI went straight to A.E.R.O and bought four new Lycoming assemblies for about $1000 each, and are very happy with them.
At SnF, I managed to catch one of the VP's at the ECI tent, and told him about the experience - he said that they would have taken care of everything...at which point I told him that (A) it was too late, and (B) They need to tell their folks that handle the phone this!
I like ECI, I have supported ECI, and I will probably buy (some) ECI parts in the future - but they need to get their customer service act together to avoid getting a bad reputation.
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01-02-2013, 12:16 PM
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Moved from "Test" to "Traditional Aircraft Engines" per OP request.
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01-02-2013, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Newberg, OR
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Group B
If you have Group B then you should be 485.00 for the replacement set of four. Gets confusing over what is Group A and B and why is the warranty coverage different. Group B has a manufacturing problem that started it and Group A didn't have that issue.
I think their warranty boss has changed a few times over the past years too. There's a nice lady named Ruth now who answers the warranty questions. When the AD came out in 2008 they got buried on the phones with frustrated customers and I don't think anyone was happy.
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01-02-2013, 02:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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I would give Joe a call, I have found him responsive and easy to work with.
Joe L. Trampota
Engine Components International
Account Manager Wholesale Accounts
9503 Middlex
San Antonio, TX 78217
PH 800-324-2359 / 210-820-8148
Fax 210-820-8102
www.eci.aero
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