Runway incursion

[madhun]

I saw this video at a recent CASA safety seminar, I'd hate to see the colour of the pilots shorts on landing.

Jim, I struggled for a little while to get the youtube link to work on another forum, you just need to copy the info after the last forward slash in the link below, in between the following if is activated on the forum.

http://youtu.be/6w-ZnkeXI7c

[youtube]6w-ZnkeXI7c[/youtube]

[Stalldog]

Not sure my C150 would have been able to get airborne in time to avoid a collision. WOW! Hopefully I would have noticed him moving near the hold line and could have gone around sooner. Thanks for the post.

[Hotel Juliet]

With such a complex set of runways crossing each other sure you better watch twice before line up or land !

http://www.whereis.com/ems/json/prin...3955505441.gif

[sandpiper]

Was that plane stopped and then just started moving at the last minute, or was it moving the whole time? I looked at the video several times and can't tell for sure.

[Jimboscr]

Originally Posted by gasman

Out here we have deer. And they don't have radios or controllers.

Every place has its obstacles. You have deer and we have kangaroos, Flying foxes ( a cat sized bat), Emu and even Wombats (boulders with legs!). Hitting any of them in an aircraft will ruin your day.

[quote=Hotel Juliet;727977] With such a complex set of runways crossing each other sure you better watch twice before line up or land !

Yes it is very complex and its design does make it difficult, but a holding point is a holding point, and they are clearly marked. I think the lesson here is that you need to have your eyes outside the cockpit and maintain your situational awareness at all times. In this case the pilot in command (the senior instructor) was distracted, and this allowed the student pilot to make what could have been a fatal error.

The lesson I take from this is if it can happen to an experienced professional then it could just as easily happen to me. The adage "fly the aircraft" holds true on the ground as well as in the air.

Jim

[Ron Lee]

Sandpiper, I first see the plane in the upper left at around three or four seconds into the video. I may have seen it for a fraction of a second just after that prior to seeing it almost on the runway.

[KRviator]

Originally Posted by sandpiper

Was that plane stopped and then just started moving at the last minute, or was it moving the whole time? I looked at the video several times and can't tell for sure.

The errant Cessna was moving the whole time, but was only cleared to hold short, not cross the runway. Due to the instructor talking to his student, he wasn't aware they'd crossed the hold short line and violated their clearance until after the event.

[newt]

Well, I now know that at least one of the tower controllers at YMMB reads VAF

Great to talk to you, Sir. Maybe I'll see you again in a couple of days.

- mark

[flyboy1963]

As I re-activated my license after a 25 year hiatus, my 'new' young instructor was a great example. Since he flew medevac and charters almost daily, in the dark, IFR, he had a different mindset than us Sunday fairweather guys.
Before crossing any intersection, cleared or not, or entering the active, he always said out loud " Is it clear left? ( pause to look) yes.
Is it clear right? ( pause, observe) yes. Then the throttle was advanced.

If you can't SEE 'right' due to the angle, or a wing, or your passengers fat head, you need to move or pivot slightly before rolling across or onto the active!

[PerfTech]

....This is a very graphic video of a runway incursion that could have been very much worse and really gives you chills! Have a look at this link, Allan...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unU43zE3SBg