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12-13-2012, 04:06 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Woodinville, WA
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Dynon SkyView Software 5.0 Released
I just wanted to share that Dynon released SkyView Software Version 5.0 today. This release is a big one: It adds ADS-B weather, traffic, and TFRs capability to US-based SkyView systems when paired with the SV-ADSB-470 module ($995) that we released last week.
This also means that when paired with an SV-XPNDR-26X transponder, Dynon has a widely available and affordable ADS-B In/Out solution for homebuilts and LSA aircraft that incorporate an ADS-B Out transmission. This is important, as the transponder-based ADS-B Out transmission wakes up the ADS-B ground stations and causes them to send a traffic portrait that includes all known ADS-B targets around the SkyView-equipped aircraft.
SkyView 5.0 can be found on from our website.
Michael Schofield
Dynon Avionics
Here are a couple of images of how weather looks on SkyView 5.0:
Terrain Only:
Terrain/Weather (terrain muted):
Weather only (terrain off):

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12-13-2012, 04:39 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Wake Forest, NC
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Time Lapse
How often does the wx feature update on the screen? Is it similar to Stratus and Foreflight? Stratus only updates every 5 minutes or so and doesn't receive a signal until you are 1000 msl or so......
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12-13-2012, 05:08 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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ADS-B transmits weather for regional weather every 2.5 minutes, and CONUS every 15 minutes. Note that the actual ground weather stations only sweep once every 5 minutes (or even 10 minutes if the air is clear), so no product (even XM) really gives you quicker than 5 minute updates. You basically receive each actual radar sweep twice.
We update data whenever we get it. This means that you can expect to have the local weather within 2.5 minutes of entering an ADS-B coverage area.
You can read AIM 7-1-1 to see the times on various products.
http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi...m/aim0701.html
The altitude that ADS-B works at varies based on your relation to the ground stations. Lots of people have good coverage on the ground, even in their hangars. Others will not find reliable coverage until 1800' AGL, which is the FAA's minimum "guaranteed" altitude.
ADS-B is ADS-B. Getting it from Stratus, Garmin's GDL-39, a Navworx box, or a Dynon box will not make it update faster or slower, or at different altitudes. Systems like Dynon's do have some advantage since they are built-in receivers with optimal antenna placement and thus will work a little farther away or a little lower than an antenna in the cockpit on the dash.
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12-13-2012, 08:45 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Indepenence, Oregon
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I am confused by your traffic statement. Is this now full ADSB traffic or is it still waiting for a better GPS?
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RV-10 996S flying since 2014, quick build wing and slow build fues., - dual Skyviews with complete system, two radio and not much else. Interior completely finished with Zolatone. CF plenum. 1624 lbs, FLYING after a 21.5 month build.
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12-13-2012, 10:39 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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If you have Dynon's transponder, this is full ADS-B traffic. No special GPS needed.
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12-14-2012, 06:02 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Originally Posted by bpattonsoa
I am confused by your traffic statement. Is this now full ADSB traffic or is it still waiting for a better GPS?
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Until 2020 you can use whatever GPS you want to provide the position source to an ADS-B out solution.
At that time however things change. At that time, the GPS used for the position source must meet the AC 20-165 appendix 2 requirements.
Last edited by Brantel : 12-17-2012 at 06:25 PM.
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12-17-2012, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Note that here is an example of what we discussed earlier about field updates of firmware/software on TSO'd boxes. Per Dynon's webpage:
Note that SkyView 5.0 contains a software update to the SV-XPNDR-26X transponders. This update enables full ADS-B traffic reception (via the SV-ADSB-470) in the US. It also enables an auto air/gnd mode switching for all customers. Due to US TSO requirements, this update must be initialized manually after updating to SkyView 5.0, and requires that a label be applied (available at www.dynonavionics.com/transponder) when the aircraft is registerd or operated in the US. See the latest SkyView Installation Guide for full details. So clearly, such things *are* possible...if only other vendors (cough cough Garmin cough cough) would provide for similar update paths for their equipment  .
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12-17-2012, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Scotsman
Note that here is an example of what we discussed earlier about field updates of firmware/software on TSO'd boxes. Per Dynon's webpage:
Note that SkyView 5.0 contains a software update to the SV-XPNDR-26X transponders. This update enables full ADS-B traffic reception (via the SV-ADSB-470) in the US. It also enables an auto air/gnd mode switching for all customers. Due to US TSO requirements, this update must be initialized manually after updating to SkyView 5.0, and requires that a label be applied (available at www.dynonavionics.com/transponder) when the aircraft is registerd or operated in the US. See the latest SkyView Installation Guide for full details. So clearly, such things *are* possible...if only other vendors (cough cough Garmin cough cough) would provide for similar update paths for their equipment  .
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The following is just a general statement and is not directly pointed at Steve's post:
I would be cautious about quickly drawing a conclusion that just because Dynon is allowing you to do it, that it is now OK and authorized for all situations. What Dynon interprets as OK may be interpreted totally different by some other manufacturer or it may not apply to all TSO'd gear.
That being said, it is cool that this is being allowed on this transponder....as long as it does not cause issues down the road.
Last edited by Brantel : 12-17-2012 at 06:28 PM.
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12-17-2012, 04:05 PM
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Location: Charlotte, NC
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..and there's a good chance you may start getting ignored by the FAA infrastructure most likely well before 2020... "Any GPS works" is definitely not a correct statement to be legally compliant with the 2020 rule. It's best to talk to the actual manufacturer of the transponder to get a sense (list) of which GPS'es are compatible. Trig went through the exercise with several GPS'es so they will know what works and is legal.
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12-17-2012, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantel
I would be cautious about quickly drawing a conclusion that just because Dynon is allowing you to do it, that it is now OK and authorized for all situations. What Dynon interprets as OK may be interpreted totally different by some other manufacturer or it may not apply to all TSO'd gear.
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Not what I said at all. I only pointed out that it's *possible* and apparently perfectly legitimate/legal to design, implement and deploy TSO'd equipment which has field-updatable firmware serviceable by the owner.
I never said it applied to "all situations" or any other manufacturer's equipment.
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