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12-12-2012, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Huntersville, NC
Posts: 138
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Originally Posted by sailvi767
Steve, Are you going to fly to the PicNPig? If so let me know when you are going and I will meet you there! Great food!!!
George
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Yeah man that's the plan! I'll be in touch.
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12-12-2012, 06:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: East TN
Posts: 564
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Originally Posted by steve91t
Hello all. My day job is driving a Dash 8 around the northeast, nearly 5000 hours in it. But now I'm trying to get myself ready to fly a nicely equipped RV7 IFR. I'm checked out in it and my dad and myself did a couple of short IFR trips. When I'm in my Dash, my eyes are trained where the information is that I need. In the RV, I find myself searching, which takes time and increases workload. I didn't realize how different it is flying IFR in GA compared to airlines. It's a lot of work! I know I'll get more comfortable with time.
My biggest problem that I need some help with is organizing. I'm used to having my flight bag right next to me with tons of room. In the 7, once you take off, if its not within reach, you aren't getting it.
On Friday, my buddy, who is a flight instructor, is going to help me get more familiar with the Garman 430 and 496. On Sat, my wife and myself are going to take a short IFR flight somewhere to get lunch. That'll be our practice trip. Should be a beautiful day to go fly. This is all to get ready for our big trip, a flight from NC to FL for Christmas. My minimums are going to be pretty high. I'm not going to be flying in bad weather anytime soon. I get paid to fly in bad weather, I'm not doing it on my days off
I'll have my iPhone 5 with foreflight, and normal charts and maps for back up. I'm thinking a small note pad with a pen and some clips to clip charts to.
What do you guys do to stay organized?
Thanks guys,
Steve

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i am lower time than you but have flown alot of single pilot IFR. The 430 is poor with reroutes. It does not have airways. So, short of hunting paper charts, trying to make sense of a tiny iphone screen, asking for navaid info, etc you may find yourself wanting for more in that arena. I run anywhere map on an asus TF700 and love it. I keep the samsung note as a backup also with current charts capable of running anywhere map if need be. I do not even keep paper charts in the plane anymore.
I did not see mention of WX on the 496. I run XM WX on my 496 and find it very useful. Obviously plan to avoid or escape ice. I assume you are well versed in the extensive WX available on http://aviationweather.gov/
i assume you know how to get the recent ATC assigned routes between any 2 fields from http://www.fltplan.com/ (useful for avoiding reroutes given the already aforementioned limitations of the 430).
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12-12-2012, 07:10 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dothan, Alabama
Posts: 1,487
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Originally Posted by Tom Martin
. . . . how to add and remove waypoints, how to activate a particular leg in the flight plan, and how the 430 interacts with your EFFIS, and your autopilot. . . .
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Select waypoint from FPL screen, Menu, "Activate leg" If you use the direct button, it will cancel you flight plan in the 430W. Don't ask me how I know.
I have gotten quite a bit of soup time with the 430W, AFS EFIS, and the trutrak AP. Unbeatable combination.
Another item: Trutrak with AFS software: Pushing the right button engages the EFIS to AP. Push it again, Trutrak goes to heading and vertical speed hold mode. Very useful iff you have to push buttons on the EFIS to swap from a nav mode to a heading mode and screw with the heading bug.
The Garmin will do SIDS and STARS.
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12-12-2012, 07:15 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,797
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"Select waypoint from FPL screen, Menu, "Activate leg" If you use the direct button, it will cancel you flight plan in the 430W."
Short cut: Select waypoint from FPL screen, push Direct Direct (direct twice). This will activate that leg. As stated above pushing Direct once will make your new flight plan direct to that waypoint and end it there.
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12-12-2012, 07:52 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: New Smyrna Beach, FL
Posts: 1,339
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Originally Posted by BobTurner
Short cut: Select waypoint from FPL screen, push Direct Direct (direct twice). This will activate that leg. As stated above pushing Direct once will make your new flight plan direct to that waypoint and end it there.
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Just when I begin to think I pretty much have the 430W figured out, I find out a nice feature like this! Thanks Bob. That is why I visit this forum!
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12-12-2012, 08:07 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 374
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elastic
For those interested, you can make one very easily.
Get a strip of elastic, double it in half and sew the loose ends to make a loop that will fit snugly but not too tight around your palm.
Sew across the end of it to make a much smaller section just big enough to snugly hold your pencil.
Slip it over your palm, pencil side up. Great tool.
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12-12-2012, 11:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: West Fargo, ND
Posts: 1,073
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iPad
Similar to your iPhone.... An iPad is very useful for situational awareness in IFR. It's hard to beat a geo-referenced airplane overplayed on an IFR chart and/or approach plate. Much more user friendly in terms of re- programming routes too. This, of course, would just be supplemental to all that other good stuff in your panel.
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12-13-2012, 12:06 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: SF East Bay
Posts: 852
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All I can tell you is if you are used to flying an integrated glass cockpit in a large transport category aircraft you are going to be sorely disappointed with the user interface of the avionics in a light airplane. What was a simple one or two keystroke action in an FMC is a horrific explosion of knob twiddling and button pushing. Don't get me wrong. It can, and is, certainly done but you need to be very very familiar with the ins and outs of your GPS unit before you launch into the clag.
I recommend loading the Garmin simulator on your computer. You have enough professional flying experience to know what you need to be able to do in the Garmin quickly so concentrate on those tasks. It's a great box and has some really nice features, I just can't stand the user interface.
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12-13-2012, 05:38 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 315
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Originally Posted by steve91t
So, I've got a pair of cargo pants, I think those will be my "RV" pants. Those extra pockets will come in handy.
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I think you'd be surprised how hard it is to get something out your pockets with out FODing out the a/c if you have a bunch of stuff in there.
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12-13-2012, 10:50 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 937
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Just completed a 2600 mile RT, much of it IFR. (430W, AFS 4500's, Trutrak AP). As has been mentioned, the 430W does not accept airways, only VORs and intersections. However, if you use foreflight, that WILL accept Victor Airways and immediately converts that input into intersections and VORs which you can then plug into the 430W. I figured this out toward the end of my trip, unfortunately. Spent quite a lot of time during re-routes studying the chart, writing down the appropriate intersections/waypoints, and reprogramming (while on AP). Here are a few other tips:
1. Make sure after updating your flight plan that you zoom out on the 430 to make sure the flight path programmed is contiguous / sensible (bad waypoint doesn't take you 1000 miles out of your way)
2. Request some time to study the re-route before accepting the revised clearance. I didn't want to be routed too far over the ocean, so would advise "standby, studying clearance" prior to readback and accepting clearance.
3. If you get rerouted without enough time to program the avionics prior to the waypoint where the change occurs, you can request vectors while re-programming or just get the first couple of waypoints entered and get the aircraft flying on that leg while programming the rest of the legs.
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