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Old 10-23-2012, 12:47 PM
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Default IPad mini

Drinking the cool aid again. Other than using a knee board (and that is even a little marginal) the iPad is a little large for the RV-8/4/3. Now there is the mini, which should fit the tandemers a little better.

http://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/overview/
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:57 PM
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Default 10,000 Feet

I watched the announcement with interest. When it was over I checked the tech specs on Apple's website, and noted "Maximum operating altitude: 10,000 feet (3000 m)". That surprized me. But I checked and it's also listed as the max altitude for all iPads.

So what does this limit mean?
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:08 PM
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I watched the announcement with interest. When it was over I checked the tech specs on Apple's website, and noted "Maximum operating altitude: 10,000 feet (3000 m)". That surprized me. But I checked and it's also listed as the max altitude for all iPads.

So what does this limit mean?
Umm, as far as I'm concerned NOTHING. I have had my iPad to 14.5K to date with no ill effects on it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:28 PM
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So what does this limit mean?
These devices depend on airflow around the components to keep them cool. When the air density is lower, less heat can be carried away by an equal volume of air, so altitude can cause overheating issues.

I assume this is just a design limitation; in practice there are many factors (restrictive cases, ambient temp. in the cockpit, if it's connected to external power, etc.) to consider.
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:11 PM
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Default Airflow

I would imagine since there is no real air inlet/outlet for iPads that the air density would have very little effect other than ambient airflow over the external case. I have used mine after sitting in a closed car (150F, not on purpose) and it worked fine. I would imagine it will be fine in a RV cockpit.

Plus, American airlines just approved its use a while back. The FAA says in order for it to be approved, it must meet certain specs. One of those, for pressurized aircraft, is that it survives explosive decompression above 10,000. So, if it met all these conditions (plus Military has given go ahead to use it), then I bet it will be OK in RV cockpits.
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:19 PM
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Default It might just be me

But I think the last thing I would be worrying about during an explosive decompression event is whether my iPad was working or not.

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Old 10-23-2012, 02:27 PM
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Every device Apple has produced since Steve Jobs resurrected the company from the grave have had the 10,000 foot limit on them.
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:35 PM
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Default my stupid question of the day

I ask because I'm really this dumb: Does an iPad running ForeFlight need a cellular connection, or will the new iPad mini run this app without cell connection?
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:42 PM
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you dont need cell connection for foreflight to work.
gps is needed.
ipad with cell has the gps.
wifi only will need an external bluetooth gps.


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I ask because I'm really this dumb: Does an iPad running ForeFlight need a cellular connection, or will the new iPad mini run this app without cell connection?
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:55 PM
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you dont need cell connection for foreflight to work.
gps is needed.
ipad with cell has the gps.
wifi only will need an external bluetooth gps.
Actually you don't need GPS for Foreflight to work either. Yes, if you intend to use it to track your position while flying it will be needed. However, if you are simply using Foreflight on the ground as a preflight planning tool it is not needed. This is true for any internet connectivity also. Again, if you are going to use it to access weather information and update data you will need to connect to the internet somehow, either by cell service or WiFi. But the overall functionality of Foreflight will not be disabled should you attempt to use it without GPS or internet connection. You will still be able to see the sectional information, airport information and even any old weather information you may have downloaded when you looked at it prior to disconnecting your internet connection.
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