Van's Announces S-LSA RV-12! - Page 6

Mel · #51 10-12-2012, 06:44 PM

S-LSA cannot get by with 3" N numbers!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!

David Paule · #52 10-12-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by morganjp

....I can see the tank behind the seat being a potential problem for flight schools wanting to rent and train in a 12.....

As previously mentioned, this is actually rated as superior in a crash to leading-edge tanks by a general aviation crashworthiness design guide.

Of course that ignores the various livability aspects of the thing.

Dave

Phyrcooler · #53 10-12-2012, 11:13 PM

Saw the S-LSA (and RV-14) in Palm Springs today at the AOPA conference. Sharp looking paint job... even better in person than the photos.Chatted for a few minutes with Van himself.

fmiddleton · #54 10-13-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RVFlyer

What would be a reasonable rental rate for the RV-12? Keeping in mind the realities of rental aircraft (high insurance costs, scheduling issues, etc)....what is the amount you would be willing to pay and still afford to fly regularly?

So for reference purposes, my flight school has a Cessna Flycatcher that was added to the fleet when they were retailing for $112K. The rental rate on that plane (wet) is $124 for club members with a prepay rate up to $144 for walk-ins.

Jim F · #55 10-13-2012, 04:11 PM

I did a number of classes with Wally at SynergyAir and have the highest respect for his workmanship and organization. I cannot think of a better outfit to partner with in this venture. Wally is a stickler for quality and a consummate teacher. This will fly! (pun intended....)

Good move Van!

Jim Frisbie
RV9A N571DF 280 hrs.

EFG · #56 10-13-2012, 05:28 PM

Rather than FBO's this plane would be awesome for flight clubs.

We tried to get an LSA 2 years back (ended up with another 172SP) and couldn't get insurance for it. I called after OSH (rumors about this overheard there) and our insurer said YES, if it happened.

I am thinking we can ditch 2 of our 4 172s for these babies and fly on pump gas.

This would be AWESOME.

6S4 Hugo · #57 10-13-2012, 06:26 PM

Seems that I read something about this back in July.

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...&postcount=202

RFSchaller · #58 10-13-2012, 08:50 PM

This is great news. The S-LSA forces a higher level of rigor in reporting and resolving problems. I know E-LSA is supposed to give us the same level of support, but I believe S-LSA will get more scrutiny and therefore more customer support.

AirShowFan · #59 10-13-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EFG

We tried to get an LSA 2 years back and couldn't get insurance for it.

Why not? Why is it harder to get insurance for an LSA than for a larger airplane? I would be very curious to learn more about this.

Is the accident rate any worse? Is it because the airplane is more expensive? Or do insurance companies just not have enough claims data to estimate their probability and cost (i.e. to calculate what a reasonable policy should cost)?

RFSchaller · #60 10-14-2012, 11:08 AM

I insured my 12 through Falcon. I did liability only because I thought it would be too expensive to cover the hull. I paid $300/yr, but they told me 65 K of hull coverage would only be about 1K/yr, so I plan to add hull coverage in March. FYI my Cherokee costs about 1K/yr for liability and 65K hull coverage.