The Anti Splat "Nose Job" a review

[Ron Lee]

Originally Posted by LifeofReiley

The Gear Brace totally did what is was designed to do. Wow... some real incredible forces for sure. The brace looks to be fully intact on the gear leg from what I can see.

I hope that this is properly documented for the Anti-Splat maker. It is hard to evaluate what may have happened from the available photos but it does appear that the forward portion of the nose wheel pant was destroyed.

It also appears that the nut area of the nose wheel fork may be in a position to contact the ground.

If both of these statements are factual....and he was on grass/dirt....it appears that you have the same scenario that leads to a tipover without the device.

So it is possible that the device had ZERO impact in preventing the tipover in this case.

If the pilot ever comments on it, is it correct that he was able to slide the canopy aft to get out? It looks like the tall vertical stabilizer may have kept the slider from contacting the ground.

From the ad: "ORIGINALLY FITTED WITH AN O-360 AND CONSTANT SPEED PROP"

[Zero4Zulu]

Originally Posted by Ron Lee

I hope that this is properly documented for the Anti-Splat maker. It is hard to evaluate what may have happened from the available photos but it does appear that the forward portion of the nose wheel pant was destroyed.

It also appears that the nut area of the nose wheel fork may be in a position to contact the ground.

If both of these statements are factual....and he was on grass/dirt....it appears that you have the same scenario that leads to a tipover without the device.

So it is possible that the device had ZERO impact in preventing the tipover in this case.

If the pilot ever comments on it, is it correct that he was able to slide the canopy aft to get out? It looks like the tall vertical stabilizer may have kept the slider from contacting the ground.

From the ad: "ORIGINALLY FITTED WITH AN O-360 AND CONSTANT SPEED PROP"

Also looks like a heavy lead acid battery on the fire wall.

[L.Adamson]

So it is possible that the device had ZERO impact in preventing the tipover in this case.

Perhaps not. But in my case, I'm sure an anti-splat would have saved the prop & engine. When it curled under, the forward momentum was low. Never felt like we were going to go over.

[Av8torTom]

Originally Posted by rv9av8tr

Wow, there must be an interesting story with this!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...718e0523#v4-42

Looks like the nose gear bent right about where the top of the antisplat WOULD have been. Don't think the nose job would have helped in this case, but then again - landing on the nose gear is landing on the nose gear...

Edit: - Didn't notice that this airplane HAD a brace... hummm

[zav6a]

Anyone know if the nose wheel mod had been done? Or if it had the solid setup?

There is a pic of the front wheel in there but I can't tell.

[rhill]

I would not speculate on this but to point out what is stated and what shows in the photos&Videos of this ship.
1.) Long 0-320 mount with an 0-360&constant speed prop(metal or composite?) along with a lead acid battery mounted on the left side.
2.) Prop spinner in photo is untouched.
3.) the Anti-Splat brace is in place and intact.
I would like to see the weight & balance numbers as well as the wheel weights for this combination of components.
Anti-Splat Aero has developed from a brace to a three part system. The brace by it self is a monumental enhancement to the stock nose gear but needs the nose wheel modification, replacement of the bearings,Truing & balancing the tire&wheel assembly as well as the nose skid to protect the nut to realize the full benefit. I would like to know if these mods were in place at the time of the incident.
The stock nose gear is less than ideal.The Anti-Splat system gives the nose wheel pilot a fighting chance,Proper technique is just as important to a safe landing.
Bob

[Captain Avgas]

Originally Posted by ferret

The important take on this failure, is where the NLG failed. It failed way up the leg, whereas before they were typicaly failing just above the NLG bearing point. This NLG was subjected to some incredible forces. The anti-splat device did what it was supposed to do.

In this instance it appears to me that by stiffening up the centre section of the strut, the Anti-splat device has simply concentrated bending loads in the areas directly above and below the brace, resulting in the strut yielding and buckling in those areas. This is a different failure scenario than we have seen previously and some may assume that the nose gear was subject to greater forces than in previous failures. But that is not necessarily the case. Buckling the nose gear in two discrete locations looks more dramatic, but is logical when you consider that the stresses will now be hugely higher in those two areas.

Originally Posted by Tooch

The ebay ad says it had a nose wheel landing. Most aircraft would have a hard time with that.

The Ebay ad was posted by the agent selling the wreck. He probably knows about as much of what actually happened as you and I. He sees the nose strut buckled and calls it a "nose wheel landing". Hopefully in the next few days Mike Kullenberg might end the intrigue with a statement.

[N427EF]

The Ebay ad was posted by the agent selling the wreck. He probably knows about as much of what actually happened as you and I. He sees the nose strut buckled and calls it a "nose wheel landing". Hopefully in the next few days Mike Kullenberg might end the intrigue with a statement.

He certainly does not know about structural damage.
The little "skin wrinkle" he describes along the canopy slider bar most certainly exhibits a major structural deformation.
Correct me if I am wrong but the skin IS the structure on an RV.

Seems to me that a flip over with a brace, places the pivot point of the flip over higher off the ground and contributes to more structural damage than a curled up nose wheel would.

[Ron Lee]

You can go back to the first post of this thread and see other information that could be important when discussing this event:

"The slow speed that I must use means that the nose will come down quickly and fairly hard upon touchdown. So far NO problem. I have inspected the gear leg and looked very closely at the engine mount after each landing, and see no issues. I have seen a mark on the gear leg where the brace has touched during landing, which tells me it is doing what was intended. Looking at the tracks in the grass, I have run over several ant hills, through small depressions, and farm equipment tracks, and other non smooth stuff. I think any of this stuff would cause an issue for a non braced gear leg."

Bolding added.

[Ron Lee]

Suggestion: Perhaps Allan could offer the eBay seller an exchange. A good nose landing gear and fork in exchange for the damaged one.