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07-28-2012, 10:14 PM
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What Vans needs is ........to concentrate on their core market so that they remain a strong and viable company. Presumably the introduction of the RV14 follows that philosophy.
What Vans doesn't need is to become distracted and invest their limited technical resources into producing a number of specialised models of aircraft that will sell in only small numbers while vastly increasing Vans stock inventory and exhausting their scarce development funds.
Personal "wish lists" for bushplanes, powered gliders and amphibians aside, if Vans goes under, all existing owners and builders of RVs will find themselves without parts and support. Now that WOULD be a disaster.
My RV7A has now been superseded, but my hope is that the RV14 sells like hotcakes and that Vans goes on to bigger and better things. That will ensure an ongoing supply of spare parts for my RV7A and thus protect my investment in the aircraft.
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07-29-2012, 05:50 AM
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Bob,
Let me be the first to say YES!
You are absolutely correct!
You are describing the conservative core philosophy that most aviators agree with.
I know that we all adore the rugged simplicity and parts commonality of the RV series of aircraft.
A departure from that to a high wing design would go against Vans preference to low wings and require new tooling and many "clean sheet" thoughts. Combine this with a diesel engine and we do not have something that Van would traditionally create.
I really admire Van and my "7" that he designed for me. I just wish that he would make my favorite bush plane too in the same quality and completeness as he did make my "7".
I also think that others feel the same way too.
This thread proves it.
 CJ
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07-29-2012, 09:43 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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RV14 orders
Is anyone thinking of ordering one
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07-29-2012, 09:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
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Originally Posted by Gary Bricker
Is anyone thinking of ordering one
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If I had the financial means, I'd order one in a heartbeat!
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07-29-2012, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Alpharetta, GA
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Originally Posted by Gary Bricker
Is anyone thinking of ordering one
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I am. I've been leaning to the -12 because of the ease of construction and minimizing my risk of doing something wrong. Now I'm leaning to the -14...
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07-29-2012, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Redlands, Ca.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Avgas
What Vans needs is ........to concentrate on their core market so that they remain a strong and viable company. Presumably the introduction of the RV14 follows that philosophy.
What Vans doesn't need is to become distracted and invest their limited technical resources into producing a number of specialised models of aircraft that will sell in only small numbers while vastly increasing Vans stock inventory and exhausting their scarce development funds.
Personal "wish lists" for bushplanes, powered gliders and amphibians aside, if Vans goes under, all existing owners and builders of RVs will find themselves without parts and support. Now that WOULD be a disaster.
My RV7A has now been superceded, but my hope is that the RV14 sells like hotcakes and that Vans goes on to bigger and better things. That will ensure an ongoing supply of spare parts for my RV7A and thus protect my investment in the aircraft.
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You are absolutely correct!!!!!!!!!! Allan
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07-29-2012, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Bricker
Is anyone thinking of ordering one
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Yes, that will be my "first" RV.
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07-29-2012, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hampshire, IL
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I also agree with Captain Avgas and wish vans great success with the 14 bet the bigger / taller guys are happy just like when Vans moved the little wheel to the front for all that didn't want or like tail wheels.
It kind of entered my mind to get out of my build but after looking at the 14 during OSH I'll continue with my 7, I think the 7 looks sleeker.
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07-29-2012, 07:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, TX (ADS)
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Originally Posted by Adam Wright
I disagree with Van needing a high wing stol. There are too many good planes that do that already. .... and after that finishing development on a self launch glider!
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Well.... there are plenty of self-launch gliders ... given that Van's strength is in aluminum, I think producing a composite ship would be difficult. Let's face it, most Van's builders would rather not do any composite work
So you're really talking about an aluminum glider. You could do it, but would you get a 40:1 glider with a good polar? And the flying qualities of, say, a Duo Discus?
The area where you would do better than factory-built ships is price. But if it's only a 30:1 glider with, say, a 200fpm min sink, well, that's not really competitive. You can get that with a $15k PW5 or $30k LS4.
I would really rather see Van's focus on simultaneously improving the breed (e.g., -14) and expanding into new markets where they can leverage their strengths (-10, -12).
My personal hope is an improved -4, matched hole / modular construction, but I doubt that will happen.
TODR
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07-29-2012, 07:28 PM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-11int.htm
This is not a current photo, as far as I know the plane project has been in limbo for 4 or 5 years at least.
Kinda wish it was flying, and kits available.
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Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
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