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Old 07-27-2012, 07:56 AM
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Default What Van needs is a...

Clean sheet design like a high wing bushplane that is powered by this SMA/Thielert/Superior/Safran diesel engine thingy!

The engine would HAVE TO BE AT AN UNCERTIFIED PRICE because (lets all face it) it needs refinement. We would gladly be the BETA TESTERS!

Not to bash the 14 because yes, it is nice. I just don't think it is what we really need. It is the Frankenstein machine made from legacy components to make the ultimate "traditional" type of RV.

To make a "clean sheet" like the bush plane that I suggest would be a departure from tradion and a ground breaker for the industry.

New airframe for Van and the chance for Safran to work out the bugs.

What we would learn about the engine in our airframes in one year would be more than they could do in a decade!

Hmmmm, if common sense ruled the world... Nevermind, what was I thinking?

Forget I said anything.

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Old 07-27-2012, 12:23 PM
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I would buy it!
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:38 PM
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oooh, I'm drooling already.....

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Old 07-27-2012, 12:43 PM
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Fully agree. Somewhat disappointed in the lack of imagination and pioneering design in the -14. If the no-medical license passes, with its limit of 180hp, that will have to limit interest in the -14.

I really thought they would go in the low-and-slow direction. Well, maybe the -15.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:48 PM
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Default You mean the RV-15?

You mean something like this? http://www.vansairforce.net/RV-15.pdf

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Old 07-27-2012, 12:51 PM
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No Frazer,

The engine component is quite different.

So too is the size. I propose 230-ish hp and Bearhawk sized.

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Old 07-27-2012, 12:52 PM
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Not to bash the 14 because yes, it is nice. I just don't think it is what we really need. It is the Frankenstein machine made from legacy components to make the ultimate "traditional" type of RV.

. CJ
the 14 is exactly what I would have expected from Van. He has always used stuff from the previous models. Why would he change from a successful formula? I think it is a perfect next model for the highly successful brand that Van has made his trademark.
My prediction is there will never be a high wing RV.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:15 PM
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...So too is the size. I propose 230-ish hp and Bearhawk sized...
They have an excellent version in kit form already...

...It's called a Bearhawk.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:36 PM
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They have an excellent version in kit form already...

...It's called a Bearhawk.
...doesn't the Bearhawk have a tubular fuse?

Maybe I am wrong?

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Old 07-27-2012, 02:07 PM
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I must admit, the 14 release was underwhelming for me. I hoped for a ground breaking design. Something off the beaten path to celebrate 40 years. A bubba 7 was not what I envisioned. I'm sure it will sell though. I'm not criticizing, as Van's knows how to run his business, just saying I had hoped for more of a splash.
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