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Old 07-24-2012, 10:06 AM
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The way I see it, you get 6 knots over a -6 for a whole lot of money, RV-10 money (less engine). It's a beautiful airplane and will appeal to new buyers but I don't see a lot of people dumping their -6's and -7's for one. Now the -9 is another thing all together. I never saw the logic in that one.
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:40 AM
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Oh well, Van has never been accused of being revolutionary. I guess bigger folks have bigger wallets.

My hopes for a tapered wing 8 are dashed...for now. Build on!

Now the 7/9 builders can rib the spoiled 14 builders about how they had to cut and fit the canopy and fabricate a fairing. But, the 3/4/6 ore smelting builders still hold the high ground!
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:00 AM
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But, the 3/4/6 ore smelting builders still hold the high ground!
Now that right there is funny!
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:44 AM
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The way I see it, you get 6 knots over a -6 for a whole lot of money, RV-10 money (less engine). It's a beautiful airplane and will appeal to new buyers but I don't see a lot of people dumping their -6's and -7's for one. Now the -9 is another thing all together. I never saw the logic in that one.
The RV 9 caters to those who can sacrifice acrobatic in favor of better range.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:59 AM
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The RV 9 caters to those who can sacrifice acrobatic in favor of better range.
Ummm... I don't think so, full the 7 carries 42 gallons to the 9 carrying 38.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:26 PM
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The RV 9 caters to those who can sacrifice acrobatic in favor of better range.
I am building a 9A based on the low stall/landing speed. I have no desire for aerobatics, and I am a low time pilot. Starting building a 9A with only 82 hours on my ticket. Seems the proper choice for my mission statement. Now, 6.5 years later, I can't wait to get in the air. Almost done.

I see the 14 as a nice alternative to build faster based on lessons learned over the years. If I were starting today it would be a hard decision.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:27 PM
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Default ...longest most viewed thread this decade??? :-)

...oh, I might as well chime in!
poor Van's, they will get nothing but (well intentioned) armchair quarterbacking on this one!
My first thoughts were;
gee, they beefed up a -9 wing and put it on a 7!?!?......but not quite.
I like all of the 'improvements', and I'm sure a lot of builders will go for it, but if it's not just a 7/9 fuselage, I think they really missed the chance to make it wider. I'm not a big guy, so the leg and headroom is ok, but gee, could really use some wiggle room side to side!

I am curious about the speed, if the canopy is just popped up a few inches, does that really equate to plain ol' frontal area drag?

..no, nothing is ever simple is it?

my last thought; perhaps this thing is headed for certification?..or is Van way to smart for that !!
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:43 PM
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Default How wide does it need to be?

According to the spec sheet, it is 3" wider than a 7, and only 2" shy of being as wide as a 10. Of course as an 8 builder, anything over two feet wide* just seems excessive to me.

* Shoulder width at the pilots seat, per Van's spec sheet.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:55 PM
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How wide does it need to be?
Are you kidding? Have you been to the mall lately and seen the average size of people now?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

Not good. Maybe Van's really IS onto something here.

I can see it 30 years from now. The RV-23 has a cockpit 60" wide at the seat level (but only 50" wide at the deck), weighs 1800 pounds empty, and takes an IO-720 to haul through the air.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:12 PM
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I can see it 30 years from now. The RV-23 has a cockpit 60" wide at the seat level (but only 50" wide at the deck), weighs 1800 pounds empty, and takes an IO-720 to haul through the air.
And the side-by-side version will be even wider.

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