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Old 07-16-2012, 10:54 PM
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Seems like you can save even more cash by not purchasing the XM antennae with this thing, so aside from saving the subscription cost this thing should pay for itself pretty quick, no?

Stein, with the G3X, GTX-23ES, and this gizmo would a user be all set up for full ADS-B capabilities?

Also, if you plumb this thing straigh into a G3X can you also connect it to an iPad via bluetooth simulataneously?
I believe the answer to all three questions is yes...Garmin will correct me if I'm wrong!

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Old 07-17-2012, 04:53 AM
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Stein, with the G3X, GTX-23ES, and this gizmo would a user be all set up for full ADS-B capabilities?

Also, if you plumb this thing straigh into a G3X can you also connect it to an iPad via bluetooth simulataneously?
First question is yes as long as Garmin gets the 23ES TSO-166b approved which I have no doubt they will.

The website says that the unit will serve 2 Bluetooth and 1 hardwired connection at the same time.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:49 AM
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From Garmin's web site -

Note: The GDL 39 is a non-certified receive-only product. It does not provide ADS-B “Out” capability to satisfy FAA mandate requirements.

It is a cool device but does not get your data in the system. You may be able to see other complying ADS-B aircraft but they will not know you are there.

Sort of like taking something but giving nothing in return....from a safety point of view, it is a compromise.

I'd like to see Garmin do a fully compatible system at a reasonable cost.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:01 AM
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Note: The GDL 39 is a non-certified receive-only product. It does not provide ADS-B ?Out? capability to satisfy FAA mandate requirements.

It is a cool device but does not get your data in the system. You may be able to see other complying ADS-B aircraft but they will not know you are there.

Sort of like taking something but giving nothing in return....from a safety point of view, it is a compromise.
Yes they will because your radar return will be transmitted to them via the ground stations.

What you may not get is the composite ground based data because the FAA only xmits that to planes with ADS-B out. Sometimes you do get it if you are close enough to a plane that is getting it.

The recommended way to use this device is to have a ES type mode S xponder that way you are fully using the system.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:25 AM
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I believe the answer to all three questions is yes...Garmin will correct me if I'm wrong!

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First question is yes as long as Garmin gets the 23ES TSO-166b approved which I have no doubt they will.

The website says that the unit will serve 2 Bluetooth and 1 hardwired connection at the same time.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:39 AM
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Looks like a nice unit but I'm a little disappointed that Garmin elected to make this another "receive only" device rather than a full up UAT tranceiver with a WAAS GPS reciever built in.

This is going to lock you into seperate mode S xpdr/certifed GPS source for a full-up ADSB system.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:51 AM
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I agree with Walt, Looks like a copy-cat Stratus...even has the same price. Of course its also something to "announce" at OSH. Think I'll continue to hold off till this market settles down. Kinda reminds me of the first GPS'.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:24 AM
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Looks like a nice unit but I'm a little disappointed that Garmin elected to make this another "receive only" device rather than a full up UAT tranceiver with a WAAS GPS reciever built in.

This is going to lock you into seperate mode S xpdr/certifed GPS source for a full-up ADSB system.
They did say they have another announcement for later this week. Who knows, it might be a UAT to compete with Navworx.

This thing does fill a gap for people like me that are planning a G3X based panel. I can use my existing 430W as the GPS source, add this and the GTX-23ES remote mounted transponder and I am good to go with less than $2900 invested in the ADS-B hardware.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:34 AM
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I agree with Walt, Looks like a copy-cat Stratus...even has the same price. Of course its also something to "announce" at OSH. Think I'll continue to hold off till this market settles down. Kinda reminds me of the first GPS'.
While it is similar to the Stratus, it has many more features than the Stratus like hardwire options, BlueTooth, dual band and traffic reception. Also the reports of heat issues with the Stratus is concerning.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:46 AM
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So how about if I'm using my Aera 500 to provide GPS to my AFS 4500, can it also pass along the weather and traffic info to my AFS screens with the new garmin adsb? That would be awesome!

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